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cristian_vogel
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posted 08 August 2009 11:18         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have recently been cramming Processing 1.05 . Its really great, but being a Kyma programmer, I miss everywhere in Processing the power of high resolution parameter interpolation that my designs use all the time in Kyma. Actually to interpolate into arrays at AudioRate, or simply just Smooth changes over arbitrary durations is uniquely powerful. I suppose this comes from the SmallTalk roots and the DSP powerUp.. Given this , I'm even more frustrated that I can't connect to Kyma and back again via software protocols. To have Processing communicating back and forth with Kyma as the sound engine, would be very powerful, but for some unfathomable reason, I always have to send clunky 7 bit MIDI or receive likewise.

In the months to come, I believe its going to be critical to improve Kyma's communication protocols and get Kyma talking over OSC or JACK or AudioMidi , with internal ports and external, to all the other powerful creative software environments.

Given that Kyma is not open to 3rd developers, that task is down to SSC!

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Phi Curtis
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posted 08 August 2009 20:35         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Cristian,

I have Processing talking to Kyma via Osculator. You just need to download a OSC library for Processing, which you can find here:
http://www.sojamo.de/libraries/oscP5/

I'll try to upload a working example here in the next day or two...

Phil


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cristian_vogel
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posted 09 August 2009 03:18         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Phil

I tried that library and I also asked Camille , but I still couldn't figure how to make osculator recieve osc from the port being declared by the p5osc lib. I would be very inerested to learn how you did it.

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SeanFlannery
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posted 09 August 2009 07:39         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Semi off topic (semi apologies)
http://balldroppings.com/js/

this is fun

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Bill Meadows
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posted 09 August 2009 10:56         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, that's fabulous!!!


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cristian_vogel
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posted 09 August 2009 13:00         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm going to leap straight into Field - looks amazing
http://openendedgroup.com/field


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Phi Curtis
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posted 09 August 2009 15:05         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

OSC_To_Osculator_Example.zip

 
Here's a processing program that sends OSC via oscP5, an OSCulator patch that receives it, and a Kyma sound set up to do some (dumb) things with the received messages.

I have to admit I had some help figuring out how to get the OSC part working - I wasn't able to figure it out from the oscP5 documentation/examples at the time.

I've also been able to get Processing to receive OSC... I wish there was a way to send OSC messages out of Kyma (maybe Camille and SSC are working on this?). I would love to do away with midi altogether.


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simon smith
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posted 16 August 2009 14:46         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With a view to OSC integration this development (see below) screams new interfacing possibilities and seems more flexible than the Continuum Fingerboard (although it is early days) In conjunction with something like Processing we have the choice to move beyond the 7bit paradigm of pitch/pitch bend and midi.
http://www.madronalabs.com/hardware

I think now of augmenting the note/ pitch bend performance method and think of gestures taken from tabla playing and from touch interfaces like the iPod/iPhone but with pressure sensitive feedback. Whilst the Continuum can do those things I believe it does not lend itself to them.

Sorry Christian for crashing the thread. Admin please feel free to move if you feel necessary.

Best

S


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pete
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posted 17 August 2009 13:36         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I noticed they mention a violin in the singular and hand drums not a kit.

They have omitted to say wether it is polyphonic or not, unless I've missed something.

Any ideas?

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simon smith
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posted 17 August 2009 16:01         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is multi touch if you check out the demo video. But I am not sure about polyphonic as such in that I think it will output centroid data X,Y,Z this can be then mapped to anything you like.

Best S

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keph
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posted 17 August 2009 18:19         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I can speak to this a bit as it is developed by a good friend of mine.

It does track multiple touch points independently, so it can be played "polyphonically". It is similar to the Continuum though while Continuum can only sense one touch at any given pitch, the Soundplane A can sense multiple.

Ben.

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simon smith
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posted 18 August 2009 03:41         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I think I was being obtuse there. Of course it can be played polyphonically, but it can also go beyond thinking in terms of discreet pitch/pitchbend.

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driskel
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posted 18 August 2009 08:45         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by simon smith:
It is multi touch if you check out the demo video. But I am not sure about polyphonic as such in that I think it will output centroid data X,Y,Z this can be then mapped to anything you like.

Best S


I can not seem to find the demo video. Can you please post a link.

Thank you.


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simon smith
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posted 18 August 2009 10:58         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.madronalabs.com/DIY

If you scroll down there is a demo of the prototype.

Hope that makes things clearer.

Best

s

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bar|none
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posted 18 August 2009 11:23         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is seriously cool. I'm surprised I haven't heard more about it on other forums and blogs.

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driskel
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posted 18 August 2009 12:25         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by simon smith:
http://www.madronalabs.com/DIY

If you scroll down there is a demo of the prototype.

Hope that makes things clearer.

Best

s


Thanks for the link.


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simon smith
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posted 18 August 2009 12:25         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am certainly excited. It would be interesting to hear from SSC what they think. In particular where this may leave the Continuum (which I still thinks awesome by the way), but more importantly where multi touch gestures fit in with the future of Kyma. Also where meta- parametric control figures in the future

I am sorry to say my work have not allowed me the time off for the conference so I will not be able to go, so I hope there will be lots of online documentation and I do wish everyone well.

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keph
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posted 18 August 2009 13:42         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

More video here: http://vimeo.com/2433260


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robertjarvis
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posted 19 August 2009 02:46         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the meantime, perhaps you can make your own (and for very little cost...)......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQpr3W-YmcQ&feature=fvw

plus
http://www.nuigroup.com/touchlib



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