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flo Member	posted 01 May 2004 03:59 Hi All, being a pc-user I wonder if there is something comparable like MetaSynth on the pc-market. Does anybody know? I am also dreaming about 'MetaSynth-like' extensions within kyma's spectrum editor. Wouldn't it be great to have a brush, spray, etc. additional to the current pencil or new colors for additional parameters? But that is not my biggest dream. My biggest dream is a kind of modular image synthesizer. Something that goes into the direction of MetaSynth image synthesis but with more controllable and programmable options. A system that allows you to specify your own coordinates (x,y or maybe more) and your own color to musical parameter map. And that allows for 'extended' graphical composing with Adobe Photoshop for example (import and export of standard graphics file format), in this respect similar to MetaSynth. Would it be possible at all to make a kyma tool/sound that features this kind of modularity or is this just an utopic idea? I mean sound driven image generation is already there in kyma, maybe the reverse is not that difficult... Best, Flor IP: Logged
dv Member	posted 13 May 2004 18:25 http://www.sonorouscodes.net/home.html was not hard to find. It would indeed be great having such tool in Kyma. Dirk [This message has been edited by dv (edited 13 May 2004).] IP: Logged
flo Member	posted 14 May 2004 09:40 Hi Dirk, I have to admit that I trusted the words of a friend of mine who normally is pretty up to date with respect to new pc music-software and didn't search myself anymore. The only thing he could recommend me was 'coagula' (shareware from a swedish programmer), but atmogen is far better. With regard to additive synthesis it even seems to be more refined than metasynth (at first glance). Though I miss the sampler-part of metasynth and it looks like it is much more expensive than metasynth(!). Thanks! Best, flor IP: Logged
dv Member	posted 15 May 2004 08:41 quote: Originally posted by flo: ... 'coagula' (shareware from a swedish programmer), but atmogen is far better. With regard to additive synthesis it even seems to be more refined than metasynth (at first glance). Though I miss the sampler-part of metasynth and it looks like it is much more expensive than metasynth(!). I tried Atmogen without going in depth. Atmogen seems to have some interesting features indeed, but is way to expensive imho. I also tried Coagula and with the help of photoshop and a deep sky picture from the Hubble telescope, it gave some nice results. If Rasmus Ekman just could add an export feature to turn pictures into Kyma spectra files .... IP: Logged
John Dunn Member	posted 16 May 2004 11:32 You might want to take a look at my ArtWonk or SoftStep. Although the graphics are quite a bit different from Metasynth - more work but also more control - both programs are available as free 30 day full feature downloads. SoftStep was originally developed to control Kyma, although it has gone beyond that and has been tested with many other soft synths; ArtWonk is the next generation with more integrated graphics. My web site is: http://algoart.com IP: Logged
flo Member	posted 17 May 2004 02:15 quote: Originally posted by dv: I also tried Coagula and with the help of photoshop and a deep sky picture from the Hubble telescope, it gave some nice results. interesting...could you possibly send me some excerpts/examples of that 'audiovisual' work? I am very fascinated by that relationship lately and inspiration is always welcome. Thanks, John, for the link. 'Full-feature' demo sounds good, wish sonorous codes (atmogen) would offer this too. I'll take a look as soon as possible. IP: Logged
dv Member	posted 17 May 2004 11:54 flo, http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/newsdesk/archive/releases/1996/01/ was the picture I used for a test. I reduced the blue level (blue is turned into noise with coagula) and I also used the outline filter. John I am very interested in algoritmic soundcomposition. I have seen your site before and it is filled with really interesting projects and software. For my latest project I even tried your softstep to musically exploit the domain between rithm and tone. Not the sequencers, but MIDI is to slow to comfortably explore that domain. I had to use other tricks in Kyma. Even in kyma I encountered the limits more than once of the control signals. I think it would be easier if I could force Kyma sounds/parameters to run at sample speed. I hope (with a lot of other people I think) there will soon be a sort of extended midi available with increased resolution and speed. Dirk IP: Logged

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