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BillBlack
Member 		posted 02 January 2004 16:29         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like to know if thereis a way to make Kyma 10 remember where you arranged your windows on your desktop? I have a Mac and two monitors and I like to put different windows spread out over the two monitors. Each time load I everything goes back to where it was before.

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taylor12k
Member 		posted 02 January 2004 18:39         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm.. i have 2 monitors also on my mac.. and kyma remembers where the windows are.. i keep the DSP monitor status and my kyma browswer on my 2nd monitor, and my prototypes, my own custom Sound library, and the LCK prototypes on my main monitor.. and do the program on my main monitor.

make sure when you place your windows and then quit kyma, that you SAVE every time it asks.. i believe kyma keeps window placements as part of the preferences that get saved when you save and quit..

if that doens't work.. i'm not sure what the deal is.. since it does work for me...

post here with further progress....

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Originally posted by BillBlack:
I would like to know if thereis a way to make Kyma 10 remember where you arranged your windows on your desktop? I have a Mac and two monitors and I like to put different windows spread out over the two monitors. Each time load I everything goes back to where it was before.


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Bill Meadows
Member 		posted 02 January 2004 23:17         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Works for me, too.

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BillBlack
Member 		posted 03 January 2004 15:06         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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I have tried everything from throwing away the preferences, I have created a default timeline and everything I can think of and the program will always pyut all the windows on one monitor. This is the new Kyma X.04 (6.04) and I am using it on Panther 10.3.2

I also get all pop up windows ( like sample rate in the DSP window) on the opposite monitor like 8 inches away. I think that this version is incompatible with Panther.

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SSC
Administrator 		posted 03 January 2004 15:21         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kyma X is fully compatible with Panther so please don't be concerned about that aspect of things.

Question: Do you have the menu bar on the left or on the right monitor?

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BillBlack
Member 		posted 05 January 2004 12:06         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SSC:
Kyma X is fully compatible with Panther so please don't be concerned about that aspect of things.

Question: Do you have the menu bar on the left or on the right monitor?

The menu bar is on monitor 1. I have monitor one on my right.

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SSC
Administrator 		posted 05 January 2004 14:35         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bill--As a test, could you please try moving the menu bar over to the left monitor just to see whether that makes the difference? Thanks!

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BillBlack
Member 		posted 06 January 2004 12:17         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SSC:
Bill--As a test, could you please try moving the menu bar over to the left monitor just to see whether that makes the difference? Thanks!


I did a lot of testing. I even reveresed the monitor sockets on the AGP card,physically switched the monitors among other things and here is what I have learned using a Mac dual 1.25 OS X Panther 10.3.2. If you have the display prefeences set so that the monitor without the menu bar is on the left, the 10/27 release of Kyma wil always put all windows on the menu monitor only regardless of where they were last left. If the moitor without the menu bar is arranged to the right where most people have it then Kyma remembers the window positions. sooooo?

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SSC
Administrator 		posted 06 January 2004 12:54         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As a workaround, could you put the menu bar on the left monitor for now?

Here's what's going on: The Mac OS defines the upper left corner of the menu bar as (0,0). Thus, any screen real estate to the left of or above the menu bar has negative coordinates. In Kyma, window positions are clipped to (0,0) so you can't use any of that "negative area".

Changing this will impact all aspects of the graphics so it it is a more dangerous change than it might seem at first. So if you don't mind moving the menu bar onto the left monitor for the time being, it will give us time to work out all the unanticipated implications. thanks.

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BillBlack
Member 		posted 06 January 2004 13:05         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SSC:
As a workaround, could you put the menu bar on the left monitor for now?

Here's what's going on: The Mac OS defines the upper left corner of the menu bar as (0,0). Thus, any screen real estate to the left of or above the menu bar has negative coordinates. In Kyma, window positions are clipped to (0,0) so you can't use any of that "negative area".

Changing this will impact all aspects of the graphics so it it is a more dangerous change than it might seem at first. So if you don't mind moving the menu bar onto the left monitor for the time being, it will give us time to work out all the unanticipated implications. thanks.

A nightmare to switch monitors for the one app that can't use dual monitors properly so I opt to wait and in the mean time I will move windows manually on each boot. Logic had a similar problem for a while.

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SSC
Administrator 		posted 23 January 2004 09:27         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This has been fixed in Kyma X.05. Please download it from the tweaky.

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eddym
Member 		posted 23 January 2004 17:41         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting. I have not spent much time in Tweeky yet, but could not find there where the update for Kyma (Kyma X.05) is over the last 15 minutes. Any hints?

Eduardo Martinez

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keph
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quote:
Originally posted by eddym:
Interesting. I have not spent much time in Tweeky yet, but could not find there where the update for Kyma (Kyma X.05) is over the last 15 minutes. Any hints?

Eduardo Martinez

link at the top of the Know Section or directly here; http://www.symbolicsound.com/cgi-bin/bin/view/Know/KymaXUpdates

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BillBlack
Member 		posted 25 January 2004 16:30         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I downloaded, installed and it works great. Well done! The big Rat is happy.

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eddym
Member 		posted 26 January 2004 14:28         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the link.

Eduardo Martinez

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