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TazioSchiesari
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posted 04 June 2013 12:07         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Soundtoachieve.wav

 
Hi everyone!

Lately I've been trying to achieve this particular high pitched sound with many different methods but none of them did the job.
I've been using flangers (and short delays in general), comb filters as well as subtractive, granular and frequency modulation synthesis but none of them there close enough to the sample attached.
I hope that one of you might know where to start!

Best,
Tazio

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SSC
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posted 04 June 2013 16:33         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But it's so much fun to speculate on how to achieve a particular sound!

To me, it sounds like it could be a mix of two processes: the buzzy portion could be the result of a delay or HarmonicResonator with a very short delay or frequency. Or it might be several modules (delays, oscillators, or others) combined in a Replicator with tiny frequency deviations between the voices (~0.01 hz).

The fluttery part sounds like it could be a drum sample being scratched. For example, if you look in Kyma Sound Library / Wiimote: 1WiimoteAttitude Angles.kym / Yaw scratching, you could replace the sample in there with a drum hit or a short drum loop and experiment with scratching it.

On the other hand, there could be any number of OTHER ways to make this sound!

Anyone else have some other suggestions to try?

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CharlieNorton
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posted 09 June 2013 18:18         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Suggestion.

1. Synthesise FM and Wavetable hits, whizzes and whooshes
2. Make a folder of individual wavs
3. Choose a wide selection of timbres/types of sound (8!) and load into Morph3dSampleCloud

(I tried to attach some audio examples, would love to be able to upload a little more than 500k and if .mp3 could be allowed as a file type would be fab)

Thanks

Charlie

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TazioSchiesari
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posted 10 June 2013 11:05         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@SSC I know speculation is fun it was just to avoid random answers and it worked
I tried what you suggested, I got close but not there, maybe due to lack of experience with Kyma! Did you achieve it?

@ CharlieNorton
I'll try as soon as I can, thanks! Could you post them on a soundcloud link or similar? I'm very curious to hear them!

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pete
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posted 10 June 2013 17:38         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Tazio
"@SSC I know speculation is fun it was just to avoid random answers and it worked"

Well it certainly did work.
I was going to give it a try until I read this bit.
"Please post facts rather then speculations."

I thought of many different ways I could try to achieve it, but none of them would be fact so I didn't bother.

Anyway I'd love to hear how you got on, and BTW welcome to KYMA

Pete

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TazioSchiesari
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posted 10 June 2013 19:14         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry that line is generating confusion... I really just wanted to get well thought ideas on how to achieve that kind of sound. I'll take it away!

Pete please feel free to share your thoughts on it! They will be more than welcome!

Tazio

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SSC
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posted 10 June 2013 20:37         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And one of the side-effects of speculation: you can sometimes end up with a totally unexpected result and discover that you like it even better than the one you had set out to achieve!

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marinos g
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posted 19 June 2013 08:02         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and in any case speculating with this wonderful bunch of people is certainly fun!!!!! i haven t given it a try but there is a link that might help... as you ve mentioned already this is a kind of a trendy sound this days....the link is from a talented sound designer JedSound, from which you could have probably gotten the sound from.... listen to the soundcloud examples and see the photos he has posted....they are all done in Kyma....
http://jedsound.com/blog/?p=18#more-18

so i would say a fair experimentation with a bunch of flanging, delays, echos, modulations (all that plus the original sound mixed would get you close). taking it even further vocoding the mix as well (maybe with a little delay and certainly lots of filters in the vocoding module, sorry i dont t have kyma in front of me to b more specific) would add a little more brightness.... in any case check the photos since they are going to be your best guide... you could use an lfo to multiply the mix or a part of it (controlling it in real time would give you nice gestures)... mixing an original sample with an analysed version of it would smudge a little bit the frequencies and would take the sample a little further away from the source.... you could try all this in a module or using lots of modules and mixing them later.... both would work...
having said that your source material is of importance and you might always have to 'polish' the result afterwards in a DAW...
hope that kind of helps... if you get there post the result for the rest of us too....;O)

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Jeff Corkum
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posted 19 June 2013 21:10         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although this is not that exact sound - here is an interesting video showing some similar sound design from Amon Tobin.
http://www.amontobin.com/galleries/videos/making-sounds-isam

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TazioSchiesari
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posted 23 June 2013 21:13         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Popularsoundtest01.kym


TTS_IT04_110513__32LOW.wav

 
Hi Marinos! Jean Eduard is talented indeed, I've been learning from his blog quite a lot, but I don't think the sound of our topic is held in those patches even though is used as a source here and there. He designed that kind of sound in the past in his library for Twisted Tools called Transform.
I hit him up but I know he is a very busy guy even if he often willing to share!

Thanks Jeff I love Amon Tobin but I don't think there is any trace of that sound in the video you posted, but if you are referring to his album ISAM I agree he used it!


By the way here is a little patch (my second ever so be kind) where I've been experimenting a little with no good results, I hope you did better!

Ps the sample I uploaded come kind of close but again... not enough

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