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David McClain
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posted 18 October 2000 22:33         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just curious, if you are, how is it working for you, and what OS and Capy interface are you running?

- DM

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Michael McInnis
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posted 19 October 2000 06:46         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am using 5.07 on a PC with the PCI interface in Win98 (not SE). It seems to be working fine, but as a new user (one week), I can't compare it to previous versions.

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MM

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Originally posted by David McClain:
Just curious, if you are, how is it working for you, and what OS and Capy interface are you running?

- DM



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dennis
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posted 23 October 2000 11:20         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm using 5.07 (that's the newest, right?) on a PC with Win95 and the PCMCIA interface (aka PC card). Haven't noticed any problems.

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dickow
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posted 28 October 2000 22:24         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've only had my Kyma 5.0x and Capy 320 for about 2 months with Win98 and most recently WinME. At the moment I am having fits with my computer locking up randomly while Kyma is running, and am in the process of hunting down the problem with the help of the SymbolicSound crew. (I have a newish Athlon K-7 box with 256 Megs RAM and lots of doodads.) All recent flavors of Kyma seem to be vulnerable on my system.

If anybody else has seen these sudden freezes and can suggest a fix, I'll jump up and down for a while in joy. I love learning my Kyma system, but for every 2 hours of computing I spend 20 minutes rebooting.

Bob

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Graham Breed
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posted 30 October 2000 04:39         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had this problem. I've fixed it by disabling my SB Live! in the Control Panel|System applet. I don't know if it will be improved by the newer drivers.

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dickow
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posted 05 November 2000 10:41         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well now, disabling my SoundBlaster Live! Platinum ALSO fixed my problem. I've been fooling around trying to make it work with the Kyma/Capy PCI card, and I think I have things working ok now by upping my BIOS PCI latency setting from 64 to 96. Kyma seems stable, and nothing else seems broken. God help me. ;-)

ADDENDUM: Well, changing the PCI latency didn't really help for long. I guess I'll just have to stick with switching out the SoundBlaster.


Bob

[This message has been edited by dickow (edited 10 November 2000).]

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SSC
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posted 11 November 2000 14:01         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the past, some people have found that newer sound card drivers have fixed this sort of problem.

You could check the Creative web site to see if they have updated drivers...

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Graham Breed
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posted 13 November 2000 11:46         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried that, no good. But I'm happy running only the one soundcard for the time being.

I couldn't find a latency setting. I don't think it's enabled on my BIOS. Still, looks like that doesn't matter anyway.

I've been told that moving the cards to different slots can help these sorts of problems. Some pairs of slots can conflict with each other. But I don't know which, and I don't want to open up the case right now.

I've also heard stories of Lives interfering with other hardware, when I mentioned my problems. They seem to be trouble, and the FAQ should be updated accordingly.

Oh yes, there are some other things that could be helpful in diagnosing the problem. One is that switching off the Capybara usually frees up the system. Another is that the lock up consistently occurs when going in to or out of (it's difficult to tell which power saving mode.

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SSC
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posted 14 November 2000 13:08         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We advise that you should not use any power saving modes when using Kyma. The Capybara driver gets confused when returning to full power after having been Sleeping or in Stand-by.

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John Dunn
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posted 15 November 2000 11:23         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The main problem is that the Capy card does not like to share interrupts. So you have to get it in a slot that has no other interrupts. Since interrupt sharing is part of the plug and pray standard, most PC's offer little or no help in selecting how the interrupts are allocated. So you have to futz with it for a while before you get it right. But eventually you can, and the Capy card (when it has its one interrupt) will become happy and stable. Then, when you add another card, it starts all over again.

Here is some PC Voodo that may help. First off, figure out how to get to your BIOS, and also set the Windows boot up so it does not hide the BIOS display as it comes on line, so you can see which interrupts are being assigned to which cards. You might try putting the Capy card in Slot 2 or 3 - this makes a difference in some motherboards, not in others. But it doesn't hurt.

Now go into your Bios and see if you can set up interrupts. Bios/motherboard setups are all different, and some make no logical sense at all, but if you poke around, reboot, poke around some more, reboot, etc. eventually you will hit a combination that assigns the Capy card its own slot.

In my setup I had a Pulsar card, a SB Live card, and a NVIDA video card, and they all would crash if on the same interrupt as the Capy, so I pulled cards, then lied to the computer, telling it the Capy card was a DOS interrupt, then told it just kidding, etc., etc. In the end I don't know which magic combination finally got me there, but that was a few months ago, and I have had nary a Capy crash since. Just have patience and expect to get skinned knuckles from yanking the cards over and over.

John Dunn
Algorithmic Arts http://algoart.com

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