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Bill Meadows
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posted 29 December 2001 01:36         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have observed this behavior for some time, but I don't understand it.

When I record directly from Kyma to my Mac, I use the SDII format. This results in a disk file with a kyma-like icon. When I put this file into a DiskPlayer, Kyma always converts the file to AIFF and re-saves it in the System folder. (in: System/Preferences/Translated Documents).

This seems bizarre - why should Kyma have to translate files it created? Futhermore, SDII files created by other programs do NOT get translated.

This translation is undesirable because it slows the compile time and doubles the disk space. Plus, it is easy to confuse which file is actually being used, in case you need to edit it.

I have noted the following:

Kyma-SDII file: type=Sd2f creator=KYMA
Kyma translated file: type=AIFF creator=Anon
"Normal" SDII file: type=Sd2f creator=Sd2a

Is there any way this could be changed? I haven't tried just editing the creator, but that would probably do it. Then the file would have a normal SDII icon, and no translation would occur.


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SSC
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posted 29 December 2001 11:33         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It sounds like ProTools has placed an inappropriate file translation into PC Exchange. The file type should be uniquely defined by the file type string and not be the combination of file type and file creator.

Can you contact Digidesign to see why they have it set up this way? It seems incorrect to us.

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pete
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posted 29 December 2001 15:34         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you can manipulate this in control pannels, file exchange ,but be very carefull.

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Bill Meadows
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posted 30 December 2001 14:27         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SSC:
It sounds like ProTools has placed an inappropriate file translation into PC Exchange. The file type should be uniquely defined by the file type string and not be the combination of file type and file creator.

Can you contact Digidesign to see why they have it set up this way? It seems incorrect to us.


I didn't contact Digidesign, but I have done some investigating on my own. SoundDesigner, Digital Performer, SoundHack, and Toast Audio Extractor *all* set type=Sd2f and creator=Sd2a. Peak and SonicWorx use the same type, but set the creator to "auFM" and "SwRx", respectively.

Kyma can read *all* of these files without translation. It is only when the creator is "KYMA" that the translation occurs. In fact, I can edit the creator and change it to anything else - even arbitrary strings - and it still opens correctly without translation.

If I take an SDII file made by other software (e.g. - SoundDesigner) and change the creator to "KYMA", once again translation is required.

Is this something peculiar to my system, or is it a Kyma thing?

Also, I noticed that the translated files are deleted when the machine is shutdown, so at least that disk space is recovered.

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