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David McClain
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posted 05 February 2001 13:33         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

stereombcmpr.kym

 
Hi,

With the current rage being multiband compressors (e.g., TC Electronic's Triple-C and others from DBX Labs) here is a 7-band stereo compressor.

Left and right channels from input channels 1 and 2 are fed through parallel multiband compressors, but the sidechains of each corresponding band is fed from a mono-mix of the left and right channels in each frequency band. That way left and right compress equally.

The output is fed to a Wet/Dry mixer so you can add as much or as little as you like. The input has an attenuator in order to prevent overload with large make-up gains in the compressors.

3 bands on Triple-C --> 7 bands on Kyma. This box definitely ROCKS!!

- DM

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David McClain
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posted 05 February 2001 13:39         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW -- just so you know...

The dry chains on L and R are fed through matching allpass networks to equalize the delay through the comressor chains and the dry signal. This removes any possible phase cancellation and resulting comb filtering from the mixed output.

Just mixing the processed signal with the original signal sounds interesting but not correct.

- DM

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Marcus Satellite
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posted 05 February 2001 14:12         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
david this looks fascinating. i can't wait to get home and hear it on some mixes. i've always wondered how some of the various mastering plugins would translate to a kyma sound. it's very enlightening to hear how you did it.

do you have insights into some of the other rages in the mastering vein such as:

1) bass maximizers that increase the perception of bass without adding too much energy (presumably by adding harmonics)
and
2) aural exciters that add top end harmonics
and
3) stereo imaging that increase the perception of the stereo field.

an excellent example of this is arboretum's "realizer" first made available as a plugin for various mp3 players including soundjam, and now as a cubase vst plugin. amazing effects--there's so much more than just EQ going on. the bass sounds so "round" i don't know how they do it. why can't sound sources sound this good out of the box?

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David McClain
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posted 05 February 2001 15:43         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will give these some thought...

I do know that many "stereo field enhancers" rely on simple comb filtering(= (delay some L) + R -> R, and (delay some R) + L -> L). Many of the soundcards for PC's have this as one of their (default enabled) options. I first ran into this while using another computer and seeing the comb filtering happening in the spectrum analyser. It was unwanted at the time, and I had to search down deep to find out how to disable it...

But I will give these some thought...

- DM

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SSC
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posted 06 February 2001 09:34         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Marcus,

Check out the Prototypes and Kyma Sound Library/Effects/EQ for some ideas on bass maximizers and aural exciters.

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Marcus Satellite
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posted 06 February 2001 19:50         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
one of the things i like most about kyma5 is that the prototypes have so many handy macro-sounds in them. very nice and convenient!

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chuck welti
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posted 09 February 2001 10:13         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since we had a big discussion about retro-filters on a previous thread, how 'bout a retro-compressor. I think everything that was said about benficial coloration on filters applies equally to compressors.

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gelauffc
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posted 10 February 2001 07:17         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by chuck welti:
I think everything that was said about benficial coloration on filters applies equally to compressors.

Way cool Chuck!
See also other subject(7-band EQ) a discussion I had with David


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