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nyarlathotep
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posted 04 January 2013 15:45         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just got a used 24d. I have set it up on my windows 7 computer and it seems to operate normally.

I have tried using it with a paca but I keep getting firewire problems. When I select the 24d from the devices list kyma freezes up and then i get firewire bus error (or some such thing).

The paca is no longer 'seen' by kyma which asks me to connect it. I have to keep shutting down the paca in order to get kyma working again. I have abandoned this practice for now : /

Configured as: pc fw800> paca fw800
tc 24d fw400> paca fw800

The tc24d is routed into an rme fireface 800 via adat (which has been on and not on during 'tests').

The tc24d has been set up as described on the ssc site.

Is there a specific OS/firmware it requires to work properly?

Is there an optimal firewire configuration? The same firewire configuration was working fine previously using an echo audiofire 4.

Any help would be appreciated.

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SeanFlannery
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posted 05 January 2013 04:55         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faulty fire wire leads could be the issue here, can you swap out and test?

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nyarlathotep
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posted 05 January 2013 05:15         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, it would seem I am not out of the woods yet...

I have been attempting to set the paca/24d up to act as an external effects processor using nuendo as the master clock source (nuendo takes precedence of my rme fireface 800 soundcard when it is launched). I set the 24d to be clocked to optical and set it to the sample rate of the project prior to disabling it.

I then launched kyma and set it to clock source adat having set the internal sample rate to the project rate. So far so good.

This works but I get horrid crackling sounds in the audio. As there is no set up procedures for given soundcards for given daw softwares on the ssc web site I have been wasting a great deal of time in trial and error (mostly error).

Has anyone successfully set up a 24d to be used as an effects unit within a daw environment? If so which one and how did you configure?

Ishould point out that I wish to send audio out of nuendo to the paca/24d and then back to record into nuendo post effects by adat.

This was a simple affair when using the capybara, the new way of doing things is becoming a headache.

[This message has been edited by nyarlathotep (edited 05 January 2013).]

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nyarlathotep
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posted 05 January 2013 09:59         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some questions concerning the 24d:

does the 24d retain the configuration set prior to disabling it, after disabling it, by this I mean does it retain the settings regardless of other factors?

If set to optical input (as clock source) does the 24d change automatically if a new external clock source is detected?

What is the best way to set the clock source configuration between the paca and 2 sound cards(one of which is assumed to be your main soundcard)?

Last one for now:

Are ssc working on a way to enable the 24d software whilst kyma is running? Being able to use the TC near control panel when using kyma would make life easier I'd say.

Any assistance would be gratefully received.



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nyarlathotep
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posted 05 January 2013 10:01         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SeanFlannery:
Faulty fire wire leads could be the issue here, can you swap out and test?

Thanks for the reply, previous issue was due to my not disabling the tc driver properly.

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nyarlathotep
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posted 08 January 2013 04:07         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't get this set up to work with adat so have reverted to using the analogue connections. It would appear there is some kind of discrepancy between the 2 soundcards in terms of the digital connections as the paca/24d combination is working correctly using analogue line in/out.

So, back to my original question, how to configure for use with adat?


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SSC
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posted 08 January 2013 10:26         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the DSP status window, do you have Clock Source set to ADAT? It should be the first option in the list.

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nyarlathotep
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posted 08 January 2013 13:07         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've tried most configurations, paca/kyma as adat and internal whilst the fireface was its opposite. I have tried these settings whilst the tc 24d was set as internal, as adat and spidif optical, making sure of the sample rate for each. This took some time, enabling and disabling the 24d.

I am trying to figure out why I am getting crackling in the audio when using adat.

What I want to do is use the fireface set to internal (so it follows project settings)whilst the paca /tc 24d are set to adat.

So, does the tc follow the paca when changing sample rate?

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SSC
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posted 08 January 2013 14:10         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The TC and the FireFace should be set to the same sample rate and the TC clock source should be set to ADAT in the DSP Status. The FireFace clock source can be Internal.

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nyarlathotep
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posted 09 January 2013 05:15         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've tried that I'm pretty sure. It got to the point where I was trying any combinations that came to mind, hopefully It will work if I go back to it with a more definite approach.

Can you think of any reason why I should be getting crackling in the audio when using adat? Is it likely to be related to sample rate errors, clock source errors or both?

Thanks for your help! : )

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nyarlathotep
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posted 13 January 2013 08:29         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O.K. I have figured this out (more or less).

I have read online about adat sync errors between the rme ff800 and the tc 24d. The solution it seems is to use spdif to sync and adat will be happy enough as audio channels.

more info: http://forum.tcelectronic.com/topic/3964/dual-rme-fireface-800-tc-electronics-a dat-interaction/

One more thing of importance, the paca/kyma was not at fault, it was a sync error between the 2 soundcards.

Will go through input options presently, I'll report anything of further interest.

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