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armand Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() I never worked with samplers like the Synclavier, Fairlight and PPG so it's a bit of a mystery about what you could do with these samplers, and are there some things that are still unique by today standards? If so, is it possible to do this with Kyma or to create it in Kyma? -Armand IP: Logged |
mathis Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() what i know about the synclavier that for the experienced user no other system makes it that easy to layer sounds/samples. for the synclavier-nostalgists it seems to be mostly the concept of usage what makes it unique. others claim the d/a-converters. one guy raved about the fact that every voice of the sampler has/had its own d/a-converter and the poly-voices are then mixed analog. for him that was main part of the special synclavier sound. but it just comes to my mind that pete should be able to tell everything about the synclavier from first hand. IP: Logged |
torvald Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() Hello, Being a PPG user from 1986 (ahem......showing age), I can tell you that in combination with a WaveTerm A or B, the PPG Wave 2.3 was/is quite different than today's current samplers. Here's why: 1. You could sample a sound and send it to the Wave 2.3 for playback via an oscillator. Straightforward here. But the Wave 2.3 has two oscillators per voice, so when activated, the second oscillator will play the same sample that you could (pitch)detune, modulate, pan, etc.... against the first one. Very cool sounds, most noteably Frankie goes to Hollywood flanged gong intro's and other mid-eighties hits. 2. You could take the above sound and resample it back into the 2.3 and record it again. Then you could repeat the process above to get even richer effects: ie: flanging/chorus/delay/etc..... 3. The WaveTerm was also an additive synthesizer that you could make your own wavetables and save them to disk and download them to the Wave 2.3 for use. Many cool sounds came from this. Especially when you DID NOT correct the overloaded waveform you created by stumbling around the FM page. Very nasty harsh waveforms that sounded a lot like Depeche Mode and Gary Numan type Wavetable 13 bass synths. Ala Master & Servant and Your Fascination. 4. You could also analyze a sample and convert it into a WaveTable for playback via the Wave 2.3 for playback with filters/lfo's/etc..... Yes, the PPG's were really great and after owning 3 QTY. Wave 2.3's and 2 QTY. WaveTerm B's I can honestly say they are very high on my list of great samplers/synthesizers. I'm SURE that the powers that be at SSC could describe how to make all of these above mentioned tricks VERY easy with a Capybara!! Let me know if you want any other PPG info. IP: Logged |
armand Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() Hi Torvald, That are some very interesting possibilities on the Waveterm. I have a Microwave 1 so I have a bit of a idea on the results from the PPG System. IP: Logged |
pete Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() Hi Torvald When you say "send it to the Wave 2.3 for playback via an oscillator" do you mean that the sample is cut up into single cycles so that the oscillator could repeat the same cycle over and over again or move on to the next or previous cycle at will , or was oscillator then name for sample player. Hi armand. What makes the synclavier special is nothing to do with features. it does have 4 partials per voice (sample players) but it doesn't have any control over the cut off frequency of the output filters. What makes it special is the user interface and the fact that the hard disc recorder and the sample player act as one in the same sequencer. If you rewind the sequencer back to a point that falls half way through a sample , it plays that sample from that half way point. This is not possible with a midi sequencer. The scrubbing is excellent and I don't know any other this link has some of the points Pete IP: Logged |
torvald Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() Hi Pete, I meant sample player. Sorry about that. IP: Logged |
armand Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() Hi Pete, Thanks for the link of the Synclavier. If I listen to music that is recorded on the Synclavier System I'm always stunned by it's sound quality, especially the soundtrack from Terminator 2. -Armand IP: Logged |
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