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rafe Member |
posted 16 January 2015 01:08
 
I'm looking for a prototype to do exactly what the matrix does but one that doesn't need to be the right most prototype in a sound. By, exactly i mean the ability to route multiple inputs to multiple output chains simultaneously. Any sugestions TIA rafe IP: Logged |
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gustl Member |
posted 16 January 2015 12:03
I think you could to that easily with a bunch of SelectableSounds and Mixers. Once finished you could also. encapsulate the whole mess  IP: Logged |
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rafe Member |
posted 16 January 2015 13:28
Thanks. I'll look into the selectable sound. I'm not in front of kyma IIRC that prototype only allows one selection at a time, correct?i would like to route multiple inputs to m I confident I can manage what I want with gain modules and dragging outputs into mixers but the sound structure will be convoluted. That was the lovely thing about the matix, it kept the sinal flow and structure very tidy and clear Thanks again for the suggestion I'll definitely look into it Rafe IP: Logged |
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gustl Member |
posted 16 January 2015 14:34
Forget my previous post, just had a second thought about this. You're right, the selectable sound only allows one selection at a time. So your way of using gain modules is exactly right. For a 4x4 matrix for example you would use 4 mixers for the inputs 1-4, 4 gain (or level) modules for each of the inputs (16 in total) and another 4 mixers for the outputs. It's not possible to encapsulate this type of sound because you can't encapsulate a sound with more than two inputs or outputs, at least what I know... A pity because If you want to generate a 8x8 matrix you will need 64 gain modules, which can be a little messy  What do you mean by convoluted? IP: Logged |
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rafe Member |
posted 16 January 2015 15:07
You understand the challenge clearly. By convoluted I mean when the sound is expanded the signal flow is confusing and cumbersome when the need arrises to modify the structure. I was hoping to use the basic structure as a"module" that could be adapted for use in other sounds. ie a control signal routing matrix but the nature of it requires building it from the ground up in each new sound Another tactic came to mind. The feedback pair modules: Can 1 feedback output module be a source for more than 1 feedback input module? I will investigate the selectable sound prototype just the same as it's one I have really examined. Just to be studious Ty IP: Logged |
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gustl Member |
posted 16 January 2015 15:15
I see where you're heading but I don't think that works. I think the feedback pairs behave like memorywriter/readers so you're actuall writing to the RAM and it's not possible to mix signals like that. But I mght be wron, give it a try and let us know It would be really great to get the possibility to encapsulate Sounds with multiple inputs and outputs. I'd need that for some other stuff too [This message has been edited by gustl (edited 16 January 2015).] IP: Logged |
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pete Member |
posted 18 January 2015 03:05
Hi Guys Encapsulating sounds does allow any inputs but you can have only one stereo output (as with all modules). The solution is probably to make the matrix such that each output feeds one half of a feedback pair. Make sure the FB names are give there own fields in the encapsulated module and use the other half of the feedback modules to pick the outputs up where you want them. In the post below Scott made a matrix to emulate the cross patch bay of a VCS3 synth, it may give you some ideas. hope it helps. Pete IP: Logged |
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rafe Member |
posted 19 January 2015 12:28
Hi Pete Thanks very much for the link. Ill look into it. My original sound actually used feeback pairs in the structure so all that was necessary for this instance was to "<option,cmd>"copy the feeback output prototype, followed by a gain module into the next imput. simple enough but not the most encompassing solution for other applications.
cheers rafe IP: Logged |
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