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SSC
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posted 05 September 2000 19:59         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is now a way to attach Kyma files to messages.

Each registered member has a personal directory that can contain up to 12 files of 500 kilobytes each.

Each attachment can contain up to 5 files of type: Kyma Sound file, timeline, AIFF or WAV sample file, Kyma spectrum file, or text file. (Other analysis files are AIFF files.)

To attach a file when composing a new note or response:

1. click the "upload your files" link
2. identify yourself
3. click the browse button to locate each Kyma file you want to upload
4. click the "upload now!" button


To download an attachment, click and hold down on the attachment link until you get a pop up menu, and then choose "download link to disk".


To view or delete files from your personal space, post a note or reply and use the "view/delete files" link. You do not actually have to submit the response.


SPECIAL NOTE FOR MACINTOSH USERS: You will need to name your files so that they end with PC-style file extensions when uploading. The file extensions are: ".KYM" for Kyma Sound files, ".KTL" for timeline files, ".AIF" or ".WAV" for AIFF and WAVe digital recordings, ".SPC" for Kyma spectrum files, and ".TXT" for text files. After downloading the attachment, use Import from the File menu to convert each downloaded file into a Macintosh file of the proper type.

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John Dunn
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posted 06 September 2000 07:00         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First, congratulations on creating a file sharing system for Kyma users. Developing sounds for Kyma is so time-intensive that it makes great sense to have some means of sharing sounds.

However I was very disappointed to see that you are only allowing 12 uploads per user.

The one thing that makes Kyma rise above all the other DSP sound systems is its sound morphing ability, and this means spectrum files. But building a library of these is very time consuming, and it is something that really needs to be done up front. It's not like a Gigasampler, where you have the sample providers falling over themselves to add to the available sounds. With Kyma, we have to do it ourselves (which is both the strength and weakness of Kyma!).

So, we - the community of Kyma users - really need a good library of Kyma spectrum files. And that means we have to cooperatively build it ourselves by submitting just about every decent spectrum file we are able to create. But this is only going to be really worth while if it reaches critical mass, which makes the 12-file per person limit a killer.

If your 12 limit is a hard constraint, might I suggest a separate Spectrum file library? It could be curated by someone either within Symbolic Sound or without, to remove duplicates, bad files, etc. Or perhaps a separate tree that is self-administrated but reserved exclusively for .spc files? Whatever.

The point is, for this to be useful it has to grow large. Probably most of the Kyma users will not reach the 12 file limit, at least for some time - but to limit the others who might want to get this thing into orbit seems counterproductive, perhaps fatally.

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SSC
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posted 06 September 2000 09:05         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A spectrum file library sounds like a good idea. Given their size, this particular way of uploading/downloading would not be appropriate, but perhaps, as you suggest, a separate curated database would be the way to go. (Were you just now volunteering to curate this project John? ;-)

The idea behind the Sound exchange forum is to share Sounds and Timelines (with samples and spectra included only if they are absolutely required by the Sound or Timeline).

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JohnCowan
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posted 06 September 2000 09:30         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
John, I agree that sharing spectrum files in mass would be great. The effort to trace the fundamental of a harmonic spectrum files is considerable. It seems silly that everyone should go through the same effort. There seems like lots of possibilities for web-based sharing but I no idea what would be best.

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John Dunn
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posted 06 September 2000 10:37         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure, I would be happy to curate a spectrum file library.

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bfelton
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posted 09 September 2000 16:16         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about permitting file type of 'zip',
'sit' and 'sea'? Seems a convenient way
to extend the 12 file limit, and also
shorten download times...

Bill Felton www.gryfon.com

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SSC
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posted 10 September 2000 12:13         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good idea!

I am pretty sure that all Macs can decompress ZIP files (with StuffIt Expander, that comes with the newer Apple OS installs). I am not sure that all PCs can decompress the StuffIt SIT files.

[This message has been edited by SSC (edited 10 September 2000).]

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bfelton
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posted 11 September 2000 17:07         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WinZip will unzip StuffIt files pretty
successfully, so I think we're good
either way. Supporting both would be nice
so both sides of the religious chasm can use
the tool of their choice without locking out
those from the other persuasion ;-)

cheers,
Bill

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SSC
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posted 11 September 2000 18:33         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Done!

".sit" for Mac StuffIt archives and ".zip" for Windows ZIP archives have been added to the list of file types allowed to be uploaded.

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