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paralleke
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posted 26 September 2012 01:59         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello all - GiGi here!
Few days ago i had a look at the OTO BISCUIT by OtoMachines.
Its a bitcrusher (8-bit AD) with this nice feature of muting/inverting each single bit from LSB to MSB.

So i was wondering if this is possible in Kyma....im pretty sure for a Yes...but i didnt find-so far-a prototype for doing this..

Im actually a newbie and i still haven't arrived at the third section of "Kyma•X Revealed!" book....so i think: if not possible immediately-it would be possible later...programming it

But -from your knowledge- anyone tried this out?
Thank you very much in advance
GiGi
d-.-b

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SSC
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posted 26 September 2012 11:34         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi GiGi,

If you want to crush the signal down to 8 bits, you could do it by first attenuating (thus losing all but the top 8-bits) and then adding gain to bring the 8 bit signal up to the audible range again. In other words, first attenuate by (2 raisedTo: (32 - 8) negated). Follow this by a Gain of (2 raisedTo: (32 - 8)).

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paralleke
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posted 26 September 2012 12:46         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi !
I gave this a try but it seems i get no sound at all...
What i did on the signal flow is:

Oscillator > Attenuate (Level) > Gain (Level) > Out

Oscillator is a simple sine-wave;
Attenuate has in its LEFT-RIGHT fields: (2 raisedTo: (32-8) negated)
Gain has in its LEFT-RIGHT fields: (2 raisedTo: (32-8))

What am I misunderstanding?

[This message has been edited by paralleke (edited 26 September 2012).]

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SSC
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posted 26 September 2012 15:32         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does the Oscillator have 1 in its Envelope field?

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BenPhenix
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posted 26 September 2012 15:56         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Here is an old thread about bit crushing and the different approaches whether using a Capybara or Pacarana:
http://www.symbolicsound.com/cgi-bin/forumdisplay.cgi?action=displayprivate&number=7&topic=000319

Included are some prototype examples.

If you ever come across one of my old sounds on the tweaky (like some of the Delays) that the bit crush feature doesn't work, it is because they haven't been updated for the Pacarana.

Ben Phenix
formerly keph.

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paralleke
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posted 26 September 2012 17:17         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SSC:
Does the Oscillator have 1 in its Envelope field?

Actually...it was not...it was on the deafult value it has when I drag'n'drop the prototype from the browser.
Now i got a first result! Thank you very much =) Need to investigate more now..

@BenPhenix:
I'll take a look on your suggestions...thank you very much!

Thanks guys
GiGi
d-.-b

**update**

Actually I still get no sound with OSC's Envelope at 1. I need to multiplicate the Gain fields for a value, say !Vol. In this way i hear the squared sinewave. Otherwise the signal flow doesn't sound.
It's weird for me because it's only a matter of this multiplication factor in the parameter field...I play the Sound (ctrl+bar) - i dont' touch the Vol fader (so I don't change the value coming from [2 raisedTo()32-8]] ) in the VCS and THERE IS sound...
With no !Vol in the parameter field i get NO sound...

[This message has been edited by paralleke (edited 27 September 2012).]

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