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flo
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posted 15 August 2002 02:14         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

is anybody here experienced in visualizing the expression "!KeyDown asToggle"? The more keys you use "asToggle" and the more parameters you
have simultaneously in your VCS, the more difficult it gets to control if a toggle is on or off. It would be helpful, if kyma could show this visually.
Is this possible?

Best, Florian

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dennis
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posted 15 August 2002 10:04         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you tried using a SoundToGlobalController to display the value of (!Keydown asToggle)? I think configuring the VCS to display the result as a Fill button works particularly well. I use Fill buttons as "simulated LEDs" quite a lot.

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flo
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posted 17 August 2002 11:27         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dennis:
Have you tried using a SoundToGlobalController to display the value of (!Keydown asToggle)? I think configuring the VCS to display the result as a Fill button works particularly well. I use Fill buttons as "simulated LEDs" quite a lot.

Hi Dennis,
thanks a lot for your advice. It works out perfectly well.
Within my special situation (sound), I prefer the ordinary but clear
and "economical" toggle box. But maybe with the next sound other visual
demands arise and a fill button works out better. Do you know if it is
possible to add colours to the fill button(e.g. red for on and just white for off)? To achieve a even better visualization of the on/off-
state?

Best, Florian

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dennis
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posted 17 August 2002 20:38         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, color works well! I use black for off and red or green for on. I'll draw the Fill button as little squares and they work quite well for simulated LEDs.

I'm glad the Toggle works for you.

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sm
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posted 27 August 2002 07:50         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
first of all thanks for this fill button idea.

the only problem i have that this is absolutely not accurate. (at least on my PB400)
do this visual things work better on a pc ?
SoundToGlobalControll to see my metronome blinking in time.
but quite often it just stops pulsing and stays black for quite a while. even with low bpm (let alone values above 160 bpm)
anybody found a workaround?
i am runnign kyma 5,21 (since 5,25 is buggy) with 40MB ram.

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dennis
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posted 04 September 2002 14:50         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've seen this myself, including the "stopped blinking" behavior. I think the display latency is in the computer side of the VCS and not in the Capybara side.

I've experimented with an external MIDI controlled indicator and also with triggering a audio "click" sound (works well for metronome type activity). For the first, I send a MIDI message (via MIDIOutputEvent) instead of using a SoundToGlobalController. For the second, I use a FunctionGenerator. Both of these techniques work but are a bit awkward.

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