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robertjarvis Member	posted 08 July 2003 11:15 Has anybody tried using Korg's Kaoss Pad as a controller for Kyma? I was thinking it could be useful for quick panning in a surround set up. IP: Logged
keph Member	posted 10 July 2003 13:17 quote: Originally posted by robertjarvis: Has anybody tried using Korg's Kaoss Pad as a controller for Kyma? I was thinking it could be useful for quick panning in a surround set up. yes, it is straight forward to setup. however, i prefer the tactex (http://www.tactex.com/) pads over the kaoss as far as pad interfaces go, more expressive. IP: Logged
av Member	posted 10 July 2003 14:55 Which Tactex based product do you have, the MTC-Express? Will it work with the current Macs with USB? How do you route the controller data to Kyma? Thanks IP: Logged
keph Member	posted 11 July 2003 14:57 quote: Originally posted by av: Which Tactex based product do you have, the MTC-Express? Will it work with the current Macs with USB? How do you route the controller data to Kyma? Thanks the mtc-express. there is a max patch to take the data and then you can route it via midi to the kyma (or now you could use the firewire objects.) there is a serial to usb adapter for the mac. the tactex stuff isn't perfect, there are some issues with sensitivity. i don't know how the finial product turned out feature wise, but i think you can make adjusts to the responsiveness, much like you can with your computer mouse or touch pads on laptops. IP: Logged
av Member	posted 11 July 2003 16:22 Thanks for the response. Apparently Tactex are releasing a new pad controller with MIDI built in. The paper spec looks quite comprehensive, potentially quite flexible. Single touch only. What were the issues regarding sensitivity with the MTC Express? In what respect is it an improvement over FSR's? Regards IP: Logged
simon smith Member	posted 15 July 2003 08:14 I use the tactex pad in Max (and soon with Kyma). Iwas curios about the pad you mention with MIDI built in. I understood that Midiman were going to Make the Surface One a control surface that used Tactex, but it seems to have disappeared . I had High hopes for using this as a performance tool with Kyma. I dont suppose anyone has any up to date information. Thanks simon IP: Logged
eddym Member	posted 15 July 2003 11:45 Info is available from the M-Audio website: http://www.midiman.net/products/midiman/surfaceone.php IP: Logged
simon smith Member	posted 20 July 2003 14:12 Sorry, M Audio have cancelled the Surface One . According to one music magazine at least.This is sad as it looked to have a lot of potential. IP: Logged
valentine Member	posted 22 July 2003 09:01 I have an original Korg Kaoss Pad http://www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?A_PROD_NO=KAOSSPAD and have never used it for audio. I purchased it for use as a MIDI controller. It is a little difficult to figure out what is coming out of that MIDI port and the documentation or lack of it has to be seen to be believed. But after recording it's MIDI output into Digital Performer, it is possible to see what is going on and then it is very useful as a controller. I run the MIDI out to a Yamaha MEP-4 and then out to MIDI devices in the studio including Kyma. Some very interesting results. I have not had a chance to try the new Kaoss Pad to see if the MIDI implementation or the documentation is any better. Also, I picked up a used Roland MC 505 Groove Box, the MIDI output fron the D-Beam controller section is very interesting to say the least. The D-Beam is also available in other Roland products as well. Bob IP: Logged
tiego Member	posted 04 August 2003 17:09 Hello people just joined the Forum . Just bought the system.I know this forum is going to be a plus ....I intend to use the Kyma as a "playable instrument", I am getting on slowly but surely towards that. So the Midi control subject is one big concern for me. What i used recently : I found some application called LIVESTICKS on the web ( http://homepage1.nifty.com/tomo_ya/ ) made by the TRIP people. One version for macs (wich i use) and one for Windows. This App translates info from those games joysticks (Windows or Mac types) into Midi control. although it remains unclear for some functions to me, I still succeed to translate my MACALLY AIRSTICK "X" and "Y" to midi continuous c. OK, this is not exactly as simple to perform as a surface control or even a regular joystick as you "rock" and "roll" that thing in the air instead but well you know ... I think there is some object for Max which recognises game pads and joysticks also ( by the way...if anybody knows more about that...) There is another thing i use for CV control (and Midi through the Peavey PC1600) which is an infrared distance sensor made by the Australian company FROSTWAVE (it also features an analog audio oscillator) although electronically different ,they call it a theremin-like instrument. It is really half of that (no volume control) works fine unless really shed with a strong light beam I didnt know that they stopped making the surface one, hope it really was functional... I am working on having some double joystick modded for CV control also (remote control for flying those mini aircraft things) for spatial quad...september i hope. ok, quiet now, tiego, Paris IP: Logged
sm Member	posted 05 August 2003 05:18 quote: Originally posted by tiego: I think there is some object for Max which recognises game pads and joysticks also ( by the way...if anybody knows more about that...) the object is called "insprock" from adam schabtach. i use the macally airstick as well, works well, but i am looking forward to get the flame in order to put the data directly from max to kyma, since the airstick has nice 16 bit resolution. let us know if you find interesting gear to use as interface. michael IP: Logged
armand Member	posted 05 August 2003 07:23 This laserharp looks a bit difficult to use, it could be interesting? http://www.percussa.com/productsblog.htm IP: Logged
robertjarvis Member	posted 05 August 2003 17:44 Hi Armand, Yes, this looks interesting. I found out that Percussa are currently working on a new laser harp prototype which will offer more possibilities and will be cheaper than the current laser harp offered on their website. The retail price for the new laser harp will be around 700 EUR. Meanwhile I will try to get this Kaoss pad to talk to Kyma.... Robert IP: Logged
SSC Administrator	posted 05 August 2003 18:34 As a harpist, I would find the lack of tactile feedback too unsatisfying. Also more difficult to play without a physical string as a point of reference. I talked to someone about fibre-optic strings that could also serve as sensors, but apparently fibre-optic cable is too fragile to be stretched to that tension. It would be interesting to use the finger position along the length of the string as a kind of continuous controller in addition to the acoustic properties of the string. IP: Logged
av Member	posted 06 August 2003 04:16 Here is a link to the new Tactex controller: http://mcomi.com/mig/stc1000/index.html In addition to the positional sensing, this thing looks to have very wide dynamic sensitivity for percussive strikes. IP: Logged
simon smith Member	posted 10 August 2003 15:11 I seem to be the bringer of bad news . Tactex have stopped production of the MTC Express. However they say that a new MTC Express may appear mid 2004. I sincerely hope they do, as thier are now, no multi-touch control pads available. (The new tactex product is only single-touch) IP: Logged
robertjarvis Member	posted 10 September 2003 14:24 I've just come across this freeware midi conroller programme for PC allowing you to generate MIDI messages with the mouse as it moves over any of six on-screen 2D-planes. Each plane allows you to send two MIDI messages simultaneously, one for the X axis and one for the Y axis. The types of messages generated, as well as the MIDI out port and the MIDI out channel are entirely configurable. I haven't tried it yet with Kyma, but it looks interesting.... www.nicolasfournel.com\midiplanes.htm IP: Logged
armand Member	posted 10 September 2003 15:53 This is no pad controller or on-screen mousing but just a simple joystick MIDI controller: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~concuss/concussor/djmc.htm If only they put a manual trigger (or 2) on this joystick MIDI controller it would be much better. IP: Logged
mmarsh Member	posted 17 September 2003 11:44 Hello All - Newbie member, my Kyma come at the end of the week! I have a Ztar MIDI controller which I will use in conjuction with my Kyma. For guitarists, it is the ultimate. Harvey builds them by hand in my home town (San Diego), more info at: www.starrlabs.com. I also have a small keyboard from M-Audio, the Oxygen 8. What's cool about this one is the 8 assignable knobs. And one last bit: I have a JL Cooper MIDI-Fader that will also get hooked up. All of that should give me some control! Mike quote: Originally posted by tiego: Hello people just joined the Forum . Just bought the system.I know this forum is going to be a plus ....I intend to use the Kyma as a "playable instrument", I am getting on slowly but surely towards that. So the Midi control subject is one big concern for me. . . . IP: Logged
Jeremy Williams Member	posted 19 September 2003 03:45 I am also a ZTAR+KYMA user. I hope we will soon be swapping info and configurations for the combined setup. Jeremy Williams Barcelona Spain IP: Logged
mmarsh Member	posted 19 September 2003 12:00 Hi Jeremy - I know you from the Ztar list! We will indeed swap info, just as soon as my Kyma arrives (today!) and I get her hooked up. My basic rig will be Ztar+Kyma+MOTM plus Sonar and Reason (amonf a gazillion other software toys). I'm also considering Max/MSP, but not until I consume Kyma enough to understand how Max will compliment. Fun! Mike quote: Originally posted by Jeremy Williams: I am also a ZTAR+KYMA user. I hope we will soon be swapping info and configurations for the combined setup. Jeremy Williams Barcelona Spain IP: Logged
KX Member	posted 19 September 2003 12:22 Speaking of MAX, it makes me think about John Dunn's SoftStep ( http://algoart.com/web/softstep.htm ) that is VERY good at generating controller event. IP: Logged
valentine Member	posted 22 September 2003 10:02 Also, a very fine controller to consider is the EMU Launchpad. It is no longer made but you can find them on Ebay and elsewhere. Lots of controls, velocity sensitive pads, merge etc. This one is $73.00 on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2559204991&category=1287 IP: Logged
Pieter Member	posted 23 September 2003 00:43 I use since 4 years a Buchla Thunder. It has some quirks and is quite expensive. But it is very solid and quite easy to use. ou can even record multiple steps seuquences and program short event sequences including random number generators. I also like Softstep very much in the studio. Pieter IP: Logged
Jeremy Williams Member	posted 23 September 2003 08:03 I�ll see your Buchla Thunder and raise you a Bucla Lightning :-) A really wonderful little device. Infrared drumsticks to play drums without drums? Wands that detect movement in the air? Jeremy Williams Barcelona Spain IP: Logged
armand Member	posted 12 November 2003 17:33 I almost can't believe this is real, but if so... very interesting. http://web.media.mit.edu/~jpatten/ IP: Logged

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