posted 07 December 2009 18:34            

The rambly bit....
Me again, sorry for the rash of posts, but I am getting much fun out of my Kyma programming right now, and rather than struggling alone in my little studio at the bottom of the garden I thought I would carry on splurging my internal dialogue onto the internet, as this has not only propelled my skills but seemingly entertaining people along the way.

I am still lovin the BCF integration, this has brought me closer together with my Kyma, (these things are CHEAP, ) I am using it via my Unitor Midi interface so that I can merge the BCF with sequencer events.
http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-BEH-BCF2000-LIST << Black One
http://www.audiomidi.com/BCF2000-B-Control-Fader--White--P10909.aspx <<< White One!!!

Ok, so we got the BCF fading and rotating, this changes my perspective on VCS Layouts considerably. Suddenly, a few things which had no impact before are now having a very dramatic effect. I speak of course about the height of the widgets which define the surface control order on the BCF.

So naturally I try to keep things in groups of 8. On the first page on the rotaries I have the Amp Envelope and Reverb settings, and on the faders i have wavetable parameters and filter and bitcrusher!!!! :-) settings. I am now adding additional sections of signal flow, extra modulator etc, but the amount of controls I require is quite inconveniently not fitting to my blocks of 8.

The actual question...
Is there a way I can either create dummy invisible faders and pots which take up little or no computation that can take up the remaining unused faders on each 'Bank' of controls, or indeed dictate in a slightly more permanent manner which controls appear in a defined order?

More Rambling about Connecting BCF to Kyma Via Logic & a Unitor
The secret is to unplug the summed output of the Physical input (on the clicks and Ports layer of the environment) which is connected to the Sequencer Input by default, and just connect the ports from which you perform your midi notes. (Master Keyboard - Other Midi controllers...Logic Caps lock keyboard etc)

You can then make two instruments one BCF and One Kyma, set their respective ports, and connect the Kyma Output to the BCF Input and BCF Output to the Kyma Input. This process can be quite fiddly counting the physical input ports, I use cntl + wheel to zoom on 10.5.

You can then address the Kyma midi instrument on the arrange page for you sequencing needs. The only caveat is that you need to load Kyma and let it send the program to the BCF BEFORE you load Logic. Once this is done everything works splendidly.

I have no idea why the BCF Just shows you an E rather than the funky whizzing lights when you try it with logic loaded...

I would like to hard-write the program to the flash memory of the BCF, ideally on the fourth mode on the boot-up menu along with the surface control options when you turn it on. This would speed up the Kyma load procedure (only by a few seconds but hey... ) - If people shout, I will make a PDF with screen grabs 'n' everything....

There might be another way, and this involves making the connections internally on the Unitor, this may be of preference to people using this setup live, I have seen an alternative Unitor Control Pref Pane for OSX.....
http://www.potm.org/software/Unitor/

This is only a theory and needs testing....

All the best,

Charlie

P.S. This whole episode just makes me want a Lemur with Motomix emulation and I still want an intuos for Christmas...... Please Santa.....

posted 07 December 2009 23:21            

Btw, if you haven't figured this trick out, put an 'annotation sound' at the very end of your sounds signal flow. That means the VCS layout won't change / revert on you so much if you delete something at the end of the chain (the very far right aka last sound module before output).

posted 07 December 2009 23:27            

I'd love to see more idea sharing and conversation so please keep asking away on questions.

posted 10 December 2009 09:33            

The weirdest thing. Kyma receives notes and pitchbend messages yet no controllers. - They do not appear in the midi config display.

I am definitely sending it cause the Kurzweil picks it up.

I am not sure I assigned a CC since I got the BCF going.

I thought I tested it without the BCF, I will double check this tonight.

I did turn everything off and on again.....

V.strange.

Charlie

posted 13 December 2009 12:38            

Ta

posted 13 December 2009 15:47            

Thanks so much for the response.

I am now performing from keyboard and controlling the patch from the BCF simultaneously! I have added objects to my midi environment. One for the BCF to communicate to the Capy constantly, and another on midi channel 2 for the notes!!!!!

I am feeling most elevated.

I now have another question :-( + :-)

When I move my midi fader on the keyboard having learnt it to my chosen parameter, the corresponding fader on the BCF moves as well, is there anyway of disabling it from the BCF?

Probably not, I can survive by putting the keyboard controlled on the next bank along so they don't wear out the motor faders.....

Thanks again for all help and pointers.....