posted 30 October 2012 22:40            

I have a timeline which I have automated. I would like to perform the timeline now without the automation (i.e. after reverting all of the automated hot parameters back to 'live'), but using presets that are made by stopping the automated version of the timeline at various points in the playback and taking a 'snapshot' of the automated values at that point.

In this way, I could perform a version of the piece live, but still at various important points in the performance recall the settings that I liked in the automated version.

Is there by any chance a way to do this now?

posted 01 November 2012 01:13            

Alternatively,it just occurs to me th at it might be even better if you could set up a parameter to be automated for parts of the timeline, and then live for other parts. Just to have the best of both worlds.

posted 01 November 2012 12:39            

Isn't it more that you want to make a global temporary disable of the automation. This way when you go into non disable mode, the controls that were in automation mode will resume there status and dynamically adjust the controls as before. This is unlike saving a snapshot of the current automated state and firing it at the right time, which would have no dynamic (changing over time) ability.

As is normal, once a new feature is added everyone wants even more to be added. With that in mind could I make a suggestion and jump the gun, as follows.

If we had a new set of place holders called "Passes". A Pass would store the status of every control i.e. If live, then a single current value of that control will be stored, but if not live it will hold a pointer to the current automation "take". This way you could save a Pass and then continue to generate more takes and more Passes if needed. Firing a Pass would set the takes (and/or automation status) for each control back to the way they were at the time the Pass was created.

You would have the option to fire a Pass with or without the live values updated, but it will always set the automation status and selected take.

If you tried to delete a take that was called up by a Pass it would warn you before the delete was done. If a Pass called up a deleted take, it would revert to live, unless you called up or made another take and over wrote that Pass. There would always be the default empty Pass (number 0) which would equated to all controls being live. The zero Pass would always fire without live values updated.

This way you could fire the zero Pass when you wanted live control and a user Pass when you wanted to revert. You could even switch between two user Passes if you wanted to selected different live controls.

In a time line all Passes form all sounds would appear in the list (assuming a sound was copied from one time line to another), so simply firing one Pass from each sound and creating a new Pass (or overwriting an old one) would then make a global Pass.

At the moment the automation status comes back the same as it was when the time line was last saved or stopped. Control values don't, as they revert to the settings of the last snapshot saved or fired. If the automation setting then started to suffered the same fate (under the control of Passes) as controls values currently do (under the control of snapshot), then the disadvantages would out weigh the benefits. It would need to work in the same way as control values and snapshots did just before the introduction of Kyma X (that is the control values came back the same as they were left when you last finished played the sound, regardless of whether a snapshot was created or not).

I think I've covered every eventuality there or may be not?

I know this would be a big job, but it may kill many birds with one stone. I also guess that there are many other things that need to be done first, so you may want to add this to your wish list.

Hope it makes sense