Kyma Forum
  Tips & Techniques
  Parabolic Function

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Parabolic Function
mathis
Member
posted 09 January 2004 08:07         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,
can anybody explain me a parabolic function? And what´s the difference to a sine wave?

Thanks,
- Mathis

IP: Logged

SSC
Administrator
posted 09 January 2004 10:59         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As I understand it, a parabola is the shape that results when you plot a quadratic equation in the XY plane

y = ax**2 + bx + c

In other words, it is any expression that has an x "squared" in it. The shape is like a cup (or inverted cup) with a single minimum (or maximum) value at the center.

Here's a site for experimenting with parabolic functions http://www-gap.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Java/Parabola.html

A sinusoidal function is different in that it is periodic (repeating) and the slope of the curve is completely different. It has an infinite number of minima and maxima (because it repeats)

y = sin x
http://jwilson.coe.uga.edu/EMT668/EMAT6680.2001/Mealor/writeup1/assignment%201.html

Or if you have access to a Macintosh you can experiment with these functions using Graphing Calculator.

IP: Logged

mathis
Member
posted 15 January 2004 14:03         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! My school math is slowly coming back... ;-)

Does anybody have an idea what might be interesting to use a parabolic function instead of a sine as waveform for an oscillator?
More dirt?
More energy?

[This message has been edited by mathis (edited 15 January 2004).]

IP: Logged

SSC
Administrator
posted 15 January 2004 14:14         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unless the wavetable function starts and ends on the same value, repeating it in an oscillator results in a discontinuity (i.e. an instantaneous jump from one value to another, very different, value). Even if it starts and ends on the same value, you will get a "pointy bit" at the splice point whose derivative is discontinuous.

At a discontinuity, you generate an infinite number of harmonics (hence, the "click" you hear when you make a bad splice). If you repeat this discontinuity in an oscillator, you will hear aliasing and "buzziness". In the digital world, all frequencies are assumed to lie between 0 and half the sample rate. So the frequencies above half the sample rate are re-interpreted as

n*SR - freq

Just out of curiosity, why do you ask? Is someone recommending this technique? They might be using it to get a kind of harmonic distortion sound (albeit with some nonharmonics resulting from the aliased components).

[This message has been edited by SSC (edited 15 January 2004).]

IP: Logged

mathis
Member
posted 16 January 2004 02:33         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Carla,

I stumbled across parabolic functions first in context to Jomox products: http://www.jomox.de/manual/aireman_e.html (make a search on parabolic).
Then I discovered that there is a synced parabolic function prototype in Reaktor which is used in some of their drum programs (as bass drum).
Following the idea of the Jomox Bass drum Box MBase01 (at www.jomox.de) I started to prgram my "ultimate" Bass drum Synthesizer inside Kyma. It will have a lot more to offer than this Jomox thing but I´m still experimenting with waveforms. This MBase01 is supposed to use "modified" triangle, for example.

What I also suspect that the plane of this parabolic function is bigger than of a sine, is this correct? That would result in more energy and a more compressed sound, I assume.
(By the way everyting in Reaktor seems to be somehow compressed. I do have the suspicion that there is some kind of waveshaper built in in every module. But maybe I´m turning to conspiracy theories now...)

All the best,
- Mathis

IP: Logged

All times are CT (US)

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply

Contact Us | Symbolic Sound Home

This forum is provided solely for the support and edification of the customers of Symbolic Sound Corporation.


Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.45c