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eddym Member	posted 21 January 2004 21:21 Hi: The current documentation for Kyma X mentions the CM Automation MotorMix control surface. Should I assume that this is it for now, or are there any plans in place to support additional control surfaces, roughly by when, and which ones? The market has seen an explosion of great control surfaces, of which I happen to have the MotorMix and the Radikal Technologies SAC 2.2K, but would like to simplify my desktop. I like the MotorMix because of the small footprint, but the functioality and feel of the SAC 2.2K is very good. Great looking Kyma X, by the way :-) The printed manual would help while going through the tutorials, but I know it is coming in February :-) Eduardo Martinez IP: Logged
SSC Administrator	posted 22 January 2004 09:40 We are open to the prospect of supporting other controllers. Essential attributes of the controllers would be: * LCD labels above the controls * Either motorized or continuous (infinite) controls Preferably with a MIDI merge and the possibility of sending on different MIDI channels. (even more interesting would be a FireWire interface!) IP: Logged
eddym Member	posted 22 January 2004 10:34 Thanks. Makes sense. I don't have any preferences yet, but the idea of using a FireWire control surface is intriguing. Don't know if the new FireWire Tascam controller meets SSC's criteria, but they make for an interesting choice. Eddy Martinez IP: Logged
kelvin Member	posted 22 January 2004 19:02 The Tascam is a nice all in one solution for recording, but it's not really designed as a controller for other things and has no LCD labels. Kelvin IP: Logged
Russell Brower Member	posted 27 January 2004 01:40 It would probably be tough to get the programming particulars out of Clavia, but the recently-released Nord Modular G2 would be a cool controller--- keyboard, expression controls, LCD labels, continuous knobs w/ indicators and multiple-page overlays, dedicated pushbuttons, connected via USB... I can dream... IP: Logged
KX Member	posted 27 January 2004 10:03 Here's what Behringer will offer: http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM04/Content/Behringer/PR/BCF2000-BCR2000.html Given the feature/price ratio, I think it would be a nice partener for Kyma. IP: Logged
mmarsh Member	posted 30 January 2004 17:21 quote: Originally posted by kelvin: The Tascam is a nice all in one solution for recording, but it's not really designed as a controller for other things and has no LCD labels. Kelvin If you're speaking of th FW-1884, it is actually built to be a controller along the lines of a HUI. It in fact emulates the HUI and other surfaces. I use it to control Sonar. It has four MIDI ins and outs (all mergeable in any combination), 9 motorized faders, 8 channels of ADAT IN and OUT, 8 analog ins and outs and SP/DIF or AES/EBU (user configurable) in and out, all available simultaneously. And yes, it does do digital recording brilliantly. And it is Firewire! I have it on the same card as my Kyma and they get along swell. The Kyma is synched to the Tascam via Word Clock and the audio uses the AES/EBU I/O. Did I mention that the Tascam has eight outputs? You can configure that as 5.1 plus stereo or 7.1, or just stereo, or quad...you get the picture. The only thing it does not have are LCDs on the channels. Otherwise it is a perfect candidate as a controller to Kyma. I have a rudimentary setup for just that in my studio. I can't recommend the FW-1884 highly enough. If SSC is interested in beta testers for this mapping, count me in! Mike IP: Logged
KX Member	posted 30 January 2004 18:21 For a MSRP of 1249$usd, the Behringer DDX3216 might be a good choice. 4 banks of 16 motorised 100mm faders. 4 banks of 16 illuminated encoders. Midi only. but for this price you also get: 32 channels (12 mic pre, 4 line) including option slot; Adat, TDIF or AES/EBU slot expansion (32 i/o, 16 ins available at a time). 4 multi out 1/4" built in dynamics as well as 4 FX (with dedicated channel returns) etc... IP: Logged
CreepJoint Member	posted 11 February 2004 07:12 I use one of these http://members.aol.com/uwekeinki/e-10ctxt.htm which has 10 rotary encoders, 10 buttons and user programmable lcd obve each encoder. IP: Logged
pete Member	posted 11 February 2004 09:13 Hay CreepJoint It's ugly looking but great funtionality. Do you know how much it costs ? It might be nice to have ten of them if they're cheep enough. Pete IP: Logged
SSC Administrator	posted 11 February 2004 09:42 We were interested in supporting the 10 control and talked to Uwe at a tradeshow a few years ago. At that time, there was no way to send LCD labels to the 10 control (you had to program them and save them internally). We would like to have Kyma send the labels on the fly (as it does for Motor Mix). IP: Logged
pete Member	posted 11 February 2004 11:55 If That's the case ,I take back what I said about great funtionality. If you have to fill in the lables yourself, it would be easier and faster to use sticky lables and you wouldn't be limmited to six letters. IP: Logged
fader8 Member	posted 11 February 2004 14:49 Actually, I was admiring the "not yet released" Mackie Control C4. Go to: http://www.mackie.com/products/mackiecontrol/index.html and scroll to the bottom of the page. This was originally going to be the Emagic Phat Channel, but that apparently went by the wayside. 24 encoders with display and completely host controlled. Gets my vote. Randall IP: Logged
Eric Payrot Member	posted 13 February 2004 10:34 Anyone tried the Tactex based single touch STC1000 control surface ? http://www.mcomi.com/mig/stc1000/ I'd be very interested getting feedback using it with Kyma. This is definitely on my shopping list Eric IP: Logged
keph Member	posted 13 February 2004 15:41 quote: Originally posted by Eric Payrot: Anyone tried the Tactex based single touch STC1000 control surface ? http://www.mcomi.com/mig/stc1000/ I'd be very interested getting feedback using it with Kyma. This is definitely on my shopping list Eric used the old tactex express with Max/Msp. was pretty good (though some data stream integrity issues from time to time). should be straightfoward to pass that data to the kyma via the Max/Msp/Kyma object. IP: Logged
Eric Payrot Member	posted 18 February 2004 06:54 thanks Keph My understanding is that the STC1000 has midi outputs so I believe it should be able to interface directly with Kyma (no need for the max object). Did I miss something ? Eric IP: Logged
keph Member	posted 18 February 2004 13:32 quote: Originally posted by Eric Payrot: thanks Keph My understanding is that the STC1000 has midi outputs so I believe it should be able to interface directly with Kyma (no need for the max object). Did I miss something ? Eric don't thinking you are missing anything, though i haven't used the stc1000. my guess it that it sends two midi cc values plus velocity, or something of the like. should be easy to map and control data with. let us know your results if you get one. IP: Logged
YerbaAdam Member	posted 22 February 2004 23:23 wHile WEre oN tHe subJecT of miDI CONTROlerS DOEs anyOne knOW whAT comPANY originATED the "d-beam" tHat IS uSED on MANy RoLANd "synTHeSizerS"? Can It bE obTained mInus the roLAnd toy aTTachEd? - bodybodybumkin ms dosss IP: Logged

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