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bklein
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posted 20 June 2010 03:09         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't see it explained as to why the Paca is controllable via Ipad and (touch)OSC and the Capybara is not. I see the Ipad controlling Reason and Ableton Live8 so why not Kyma? Could it at least be a virtual Wacom?

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Denis Goekdag
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posted 20 June 2010 04:50         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's no ethernet connector on the Capybara, which is needed to get the OSC to the device.

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tuscland
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posted 20 June 2010 17:07         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

To control the Capybara with OSC messages, you will need a software to send messages through the Firewire connection of the Flame interface.

You can do this either by using Max/MSP with the flame object or by using OSCulator, which is able to receive OSC data, and convert it to Firewire messages. Please note that in the latter case, the control is one-way only.


Cheers,
Cam

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bklein
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posted 20 June 2010 19:32         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am seeing a Capybara with firewire interface to a pc - a pc that has an ethernet interface. The Pacarana has more interfaces but how does this really matter? You still must utilize the Kyma software to map them as controllers. So perhaps the Paca was designed with local access to controller inputs - maybe this frees up the firewire interface for more audio and less control bandwidth. Not to mention the Capy is FW400 not 800 like the Paca. But ignoring these differences, why couldn't the pc hosting Kyma utilize its ethernet interface as well for controller options? An alternative I suppose would be a device/pc that daisychains with the firewire ouput of the Kyma pc and would then act as a second host to the Capy.
How does OSCulator midi control of Capybara compare to ethernet OSC control of the Paca in terms of function and results?
Is there hope that Kyma will be revised to have this ethernet software interface?
I acknowledge the Max/MSP option you mention, but this is all getting pretty complex, when compared to having Wacom directly supported for example.

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SSC
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posted 21 June 2010 14:37         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Is there hope that Kyma will be revised to have this ethernet software interface?
I acknowledge the Max/MSP option you mention, but this is all getting pretty complex, when compared to having Wacom directly supported for example.

Supporting OSC for the Capybara is more complicated than supporting Wacom control. Wacom already has a driver for Windows so Kyma just has to access a small number of pre-defined position data streams provided from the Wacom. OSC on the other hand, is very open-ended and would have to be first interpreted and then sent via the Windows FireWire driver to the Capybara. This is in fact what Camille's OSCulator does for Mac OS machines, but doing the same thing in Windows would require writing a custom DLL and driver (on the Mac, the driver is built-in). Maybe someone will write an OSCulator-like application for Windows at some point, but there are not as many frameworks and support tools for writing something this in Windows as there are for Mac OS.

By handling the OSC packets on the Paca(rana), we can make it work for both Mac OS and Windows at the same time.

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