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Micah Frank
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posted 23 July 2012 14:32         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone tried the Madrona Labs soundplane with Kyma?

I actually ordered one back in Nov and anticipate it arriving soon. Just curious if anyone has any tips or caveats about setting it up to control Kyma via OSC.

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BenPhenix
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posted 24 July 2012 08:53         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have and it works great. Thanks to SCC working with Madrona to add native support.

To set it up:
Plug an ethernet cable into your Pacarana (if you haven't already)
In the Madrona client, enable OSC and in the destination drop down, select your kyma system (beslime-xxx).

Now by default, everything works and by default uses the same mapping that a Continuum controller does. This means there are several examples in the sound library that you can use to get started.

Y-plane is !Pitch
X-plane is !KeyTimbre
Z-plane is !KeyVelocity (continuous)

Sometimes, you want to a 0-1 value for the Y-plane or maybe you want to use a different naming for the planes. I added this to my global map:

!SoundplaneY is: ((`MIDIKeyNumber - 45) / 29).
!SoundplaneX is: `MIDIKeyTimbre.
!SoundplaneZ is: `MIDIKeyVelocity.

Now the Y plane sends values over the 0-1 range. This assumes you have not changed the transpose setting in the Soundplane client. There may be a easier way to do remap but the above does work.

Another handy feature is the soundplane client automatically updates the multi-touch count based on the voice count of your sound in kyma.

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bar|none
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posted 30 July 2012 12:03         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just tried this!!

So fantastic.

Thank you SS and Ben for lending your soundplane!!

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bar|none
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posted 30 July 2012 12:05         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ben,

What sounds work the best so far? I just tried some .psi stuff with cello and flute models and they sound great.

Want to find some samples that use KeyTimbre especially.

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SSC
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posted 30 July 2012 12:24         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are some examples in the Kyma Sound Library (these will work with Wacom tablet, Continuum fingerboard, and Kyma Control as well—or a regular MIDI keyboard if you map the ModWheel to KeyTimbre):

Kyma Sound Library:Analysis resynthesis, keymaps, & morphing x82:KBD (continuous & discrete) control

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ChristianSchloesser
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posted 30 July 2012 15:58         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am thinking of buying one of these too.
Does anybody may have time to make a short demo video with some Kyma Sounds?
Maybe some one in Germany uses on of this with a paca(rana)?

Have a nice day
Chris



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bar|none
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posted 31 July 2012 17:09         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
VIDEO!!!

https://vimeo.com/46710480

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ChristianSchloesser
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posted 31 July 2012 18:02         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much.
I think i will have a look at the half size continuum too and then
choose between the two.
I really like the wooden style of the Soundplane but i heard that the continuum is more precise?(but also much bigger in size)
i am not sure yet .. but one of these i will go for.
have a nice day
chris



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ChristianSchloesser
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posted 03 August 2012 02:58         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excelent...
Does it perform on polyphonic events more then two as cool as in your performance?
How is the feel and the size...
to me it looks perfect...
ohh i really would like to play theses ... wood...

all the best
chris

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ChristianSchloesser
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posted 14 November 2012 16:18         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bar|none:
VIDEO!!!

https://vimeo.com/46710480


I was wondering if you are happy with the Soundplane A after using it for a few month. I am currently can not decide between the small continuum or the soundplane... I think both are real nice Instruments.

any tips/suggestions ?

Thankx
Chris


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JackRosete
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posted 13 November 2013 09:06         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, just found this thread and have a couple of questions

Other than physical size/looks, can anyone explain the main differences between the soundplane and the continuum?

I'm super keen to get one of these controllers, any tips would be great!

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RobSol
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posted 17 November 2013 15:48         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have never tried the Soundplane so I can't say for sure, but it seems to me that there is more "travel" on the Fingerboard when it comes to pressure. The Soundplane has a wood top cover on the playing surface and does not seem to have quite as much travel.

The Haken also has a limitation when it comes to vertical sensing of fingers... If you hold one finger in place and run another one past it, you will get something akin to voice stealing, whereas the Soundplane is set up (as I understand it) to work more like a guitar, with the wooden squares representing strings and frets. The Fingerboard is more like a fretless keyboard.

There is a built in synth in the continuum which is very powerful and is very well integrated to work with the playing surface, but it is not easy to use. Soundplane does not have an inbuildt synth but I think it comes bundled with Aalto, which is a wonderful, nice sounding synth plugin for PC/Mac and very intuitive to use and program. It's the only Synth plugin I own. It is not quite as flexible as the Eagan matrix in the continuum though: http://www.hakenaudio.com/Continuum/eaganmatrixoverv.html

No doubt both of them are well built, expressive instruments with great potential in the right hands... I'd love to try a Soundplane but have no idea if any of them have even made it into Europe yet.

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JackRosete
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posted 18 November 2013 11:09         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the detailed info! I get the gist that you really need to try these out in person to get the feel But the advice helped. I think i'm going to sit on it for a few weeks, I have a lot of other stuff to be getting on with for now, hopefully I'll get the chance to have a jam on one some time soon...

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