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taylor12k Member	posted 20 September 2002 21:29 hi, i have a MOTU microexpress (4 in/6out) midi interface. my capybara is going into one of those ports, yet i can't seem to get my controller to play it when kyma is open... also, kyma's midi configuration menu doesn't seem to support, or deal with multi port midi interfaces. i can set the channel, but without kyma recognizing my Free Midi setup, how does it know what port of the interface it's connected to? i know the midi works with the capybara as i've made a direct connection from my controller to it. is there any way to run the capybara through my Midi Express to control it, or am i going to have to break out another keyboard and run a dedicated controller to it? thanks IP: Logged
dennis Member	posted 21 September 2002 12:15 As a fellow Kyma user with a MOTU MIDI Express XT, I'll try to help out. My MOTU box works fine with Kyma and I'm sure your's will too. Probably the two key ideas are 1) the Capaybara receives all MIDI data exclusively from it's MIDI connectors (or ports) attached to the Capybara and 2) no MIDI data flows from your Micro Express, through the Micro Express-to-Computer USB, and into Kyma. For a short (concise) answer, the Capybara does not support multiple MIDI ports. If I understand your set-up, you'll probably want to run your keyboard controller's MIDI-out into the Micro Express, then connect an output of the Micro Express to the MIDI-in of the Capybara. You will probably need to set-up the Midi Express so that it routes the MIDI commands properly between these ports. A cautionary note: I have my Capybara connected to both send and receive MIDI data to other devices. When I first got my Midi Express, I frequently created MIDI feedback loops where MIDI messages, once sent, were never consumed and constantly circulated, reeking havoc and chaos. Proper filtering with the MIDI Express solved this problem. Hope this helps! IP: Logged
babakool Member	posted 21 September 2002 12:33 Hello! I use FreeMIDI with Kyma and a MIDI Express XT. >i have a MOTU microexpress (4 in/6out) midi interface. my capybara is >going into one of those ports, yet i can't seem to get my controller to >play it when kyma is open... Does the MicroExpress have presets? You should choose one like "Live Keyboard" from the Clockworks program or front panel. You want an input from your controller going to all outs. Set your controller to transmit on channel 1 > also, kyma's midi configuration menu doesn't seem to support, or deal >with multi port midi interfaces. i can set the channel, but without >kyma recognizing my Free Midi setup, how does it know what port of the >interface it's connected to? The Kyma/Capy combo doesn't need to, and as you noted, can't know what port it's connected to. You just set it up in FreeMIDI like another device. I have it set to recieve and transmit on all channels and MTC. In Kyma my basic recieve channel is 1. >i know the midi works with the capybara as i've made a direct >connection from my controller to it. is there any way to run the >capybara through my Midi Express to control it, or am i going to have >to break out another keyboard and run a dedicated controller to it? If you have done the above you should be able to play any MIDI enabled sound you've loaded in Kyma. If your problem is with using a sequencer, like DP, with Kyma then you need a different preset for the Micro, like Sequencer 30, and to make sure you have MIDI thru enabled, a MIDI track record enabled and the correct input and destination chosen in the track. Hope this helps. IP: Logged
taylor12k Member	posted 21 September 2002 13:04 thanks for the reply.. >If I understand your set-up, you'll probably want to run your >keyboard controller's MIDI-out into the Micro Express, then >connect an output of the Micro Express to the MIDI-in of the >Capybara. yes, this is the natural way to hook midi.. of course.. and it's what i'm doing.. but the capy doesn't receive any midi... there is another reply here in the forum that may have some answers.. i just hope i don't have to end up hooking up a 2nd controller to run straight into the capybara... it probably has something to do with the way the midi express is routing the incoming data... IP: Logged
taylor12k Member	posted 21 September 2002 13:07 >Does the MicroExpress have presets? You should choose one like "Live Keyboard" from the Clockworks program or front panel. You want an input from your controller going to all outs. Set your controller to transmit on channel 1 --- yes, the micro express has presets.. a few accessible via the font panel.. i'm pretty sure i have it set to a basic one... but i'll take a look.. If you have done the above you should be able to play any MIDI enabled sound you've loaded in Kyma. If your problem is with using a sequencer, like DP, with Kyma then you need a different preset for the Micro, like Sequencer 30, and to make sure you have MIDI thru enabled, a MIDI track record enabled and the correct input and destination chosen in the track. Hope this helps. --- i am a DP user, but i don't need to use kyma within DP (i just use it for sound manipulation and export aiffs..)... but i will take a look again at the presets on the micro and try to figure it out. at least there are kyma users out there who use the micro express.. so i know it's possible.. thanks IP: Logged
babakool Member	posted 21 September 2002 17:24 If you have it, I highly recommend using the MOTU Clockworks app which will allow you to view, edit and store presets for your interface. This should help you track down the problem. If you don't have it pick it up here: http://www.motu.com/english/download/index.html Good luck! IP: Logged
pete Member	posted 23 September 2002 13:55 Hi Taylor I use a MOTU micro express (USB) , G4 ,Cappy 66 and a Yamaha Clavanola that I use as a keyboard controller. I've plugged the Keyboard into Midi 1 on the micro express (in to out , out to in). And the cappy is plugged to midi 3 of the micro express (in to out , out to in). If I use it with a sequencer (Cubase in my case) I have to set up Cubase, freemidi and OMS such that they all talk to each other and the cappy . But if I'm not using a sequencer ( as you seem to be doing) I simply press the select button in the front of the micro express enough times to make the "Factory" LED and the "Merge All" LEDs are lit. These are the Presets that Babakool mentioned. In this case it doesn’t matter what freemidi , OMS, or anything else is doing. In fact I can unplug the USB so that there is no connection to the computer at all, and it still works. Don't forget to press the select button 13 more times when you want to go back and start using the sequencer again. Can I suggest that you select "Configure Midi..." under the DSP menu in Kyma, and then press the "Show Midi Messages" button. This way you can see what the cappy is getting at its input regardless of midi channel or type of info. Hope it helps Pete IP: Logged

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