posted 28 December 2003 18:19            

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Originally posted by SSC:
tweaky is an *additional* resource that is available to you to use or not to use at your own discretion.

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Once upon a time this Forum had a high degree of participation and interaction - often supporting long discussions betweeen several members - then Tweeeky came along and all that changed.

I, for one, don't like having to look at two differnet websites, where I must use two different login ID's (because of Tweeeky's tweakiness).

posted 30 December 2003 12:01            

I felt exactly the same. I havenīt used Kyma for a while and Kyma-X was the kick in my own butt to sit down and learn once more. I have to admit that when you pause on Kyma you forget and I now feel like a complete beginner.
As a person in Film-Post I find my Kyma "collecting dust" most of the time because I almost never have the time to do things in Kyma. It just demands too much "headroom" of the little time I have to sound design a film. In between itīs hard to prepare Kyma-Patches because how do I know now what Iīm going to need it for the next time I need it and when I think "this is a good FX for kyma" I find myself spending hours and hours with kyma without really getting what I want.

But I hope that I now get some enlightment from the new maual.

A happy new year to everyone!

posted 30 December 2003 19:14            

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Originally posted by Frank Kruse:
I felt exactly the same. I havenīt used Kyma for a while and Kyma-X was the kick in my own butt to sit down and learn once more. I have to admit that when you pause on Kyma you forget and I now feel like a complete beginner.

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Good description, Frank ... some things I did in the past with Kyma's resynthesis I do now with my VP9000s and V-Synth or Vokator because it's so much more intuitive. I hate to say this as I really think the potential of Kyma is extreme in a positive sense. Also it sounds better most of the time than most plug ins or VariOS Hardware.
The point of a very accessible GUI is crucial here. I don't mind the layers of complexity if I want to dig deeper but most of the time I work as a composer who want to develop sounds based on his own preparations and developments. Kyma's use is so time demanding for me that I rarely get all the things done I want.
Did Kyma-X change things for you so far? As I mentioned I have high expectations and hopes it is a leap forward in ergonomics.

posted 31 December 2003 01:27            

As far as I can say the main difference in Kyma-X is a much faster GUI (MacOSX) nicer Icons, Stereo and mono "cables" and a new arrangement and amount of prototypes.

The Prototypes are my main Problem, I must say. After not having used Kyma for 3 months It costs me one hour to find out wich prototype to use for certain things and after having "programmed" around for another hour with a set of prototypes I find out that there is another prototype that does exactly what I was trying to do but I hope this ratio is going to change quickly while learning ;-)

You will notice a little frustration here. But this is not ment as product bashing. Maybe Kyma just isnīt the right tool for me. I really like the sound and some examples are amazing, Itīs just that I never really got hooked to the "adictive" character of Kyma when you start that people soemtimes describe.

Now that I have some free time, Iīll promise to give it another try..... ;-)

posted 31 December 2003 12:06            

After spending most of the year 2003 creating Kyma X and expanding the support websites, we are looking forward to initiating lots of new and stimulating projects in 2004! We invite and welcome all of you to continue to join us on these new adventures.