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flo
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posted 30 April 2006 08:18         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,
being a bit timeline-illiterate, a simple thing i'd like to know: if you have a stereo source live and you want to proces that stereo in the timeline, and mix both dry and wet, is there then no other, maybe more economical method than to do the same thing twice, for left and right? (meaning 2x audio ins and 2x fx processing sound, for 2 tr input and 2 tr fx processing)
Thanks,
Florian

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posted 30 April 2006 11:57         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Within the track, the stereo signal is maintained exactly as in Sounds used outside of the timeline.

The output of the track through panning is stereo only if track output position is placed in the front center (which is the default location).

The output of the track to a submix is the same as the output of the rightmost module in the track's Sound (which could be stereo).

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flo
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posted 01 May 2006 11:16         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok, so this was all unnecessary complication, thought i read somewhere
that a track is always 'mono' (maybe regarding the number of sounds you can put on a track...allthough you can stack several sounds, or at least two...anyway, not important...)

More important: during a concert I have to switch my input for processing from live to disk/sample, because I have to bridge something (the time the performer needs to switch from one instrument to the other, etc.)
It is clear to me how I would do this in a sound: i'd use a crossfade module, also for the direct signals in the mix, so that I can control this in realtime simply by pressing a button or toggle, specifying an additional time for the transition (also adjustable in the VCS).
But it is not clear to me how you can do this, in this reduced and simple manner, in the timeline? Is it possible in the same way?

And if you use the timeline for live improvisation, can you still record what you do using the 'record to disk' option? Or would that require another solution?
Thanks,
Flo


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posted 01 May 2006 14:17         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you pan the output to something other than dead center, the stereo separation will not be maintained.

For the crossfade, you could have the live portion on on track and the disk portion on another track. Use the FadeInOut time functions for each of the Sounds to implement the crossfade. You could use a WaitUntil on yet another track to give you (or the performer) control on when to begin the crossfade. (You could control the duration of the transition live by adjusting the BPM global control, although this will change the timing of all controllers automated in the timeline.)

Yes, you can record the timeline even when it is being used "live". (The recording thermometer feedback might not be correct, but it will record until the time cursor hits the end of the timeline.)


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flo
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posted 06 May 2006 09:19         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I assume you can then assign both live and disk input to one submix and route that to the fx processing sound?
Re stereo: if you'd like to pan it a bit more to the left, let's say simply by increasing the left and decreasing the right, you'd have to do this with a pan-module within the sound itself?


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posted 06 May 2006 15:16         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes and yes.

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