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mmarsh Member |
posted 01 December 2003 15:34
 
Being hopelessly odl fashioned, I would really like to have a printed copy of the manual. I think I remember SSC saying that the manuals were on the way. DO you have an ETA on those? Thanks! Mike IP: Logged |
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SSC Administrator |
posted 01 December 2003 16:58
Due to a snafu with the printer, we just found out that the book must be reprinted. Our revised ETA is second week of January. Sorry for this unanticipated delay, but we hope it will make a nice new years present. Thank you for your patience! IP: Logged |
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mmarsh Member |
posted 01 December 2003 16:59
OK, thanks for the update... Mike IP: Logged |
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torvald Member |
posted 23 December 2003 01:24
Eventhough I do have the luxury of having a PowerBook to sit along side my main MAC for viewing the .PDF manual, I really do like having a printed paper copy to dog ear while I am sitting in bed. And before ANY of you tree huggeres out there reply, just remember we are in Iraq for OIL and NOT paper the last time I checked the Bechtel website!! Or was it the Rand or Halliburton or Chevron or...... IP: Logged |
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mmarsh Member |
posted 27 December 2003 23:32
Yeah, I really like to read the manual offline, too. It's probably the second best source of creative ideas, short of being in front of the machine and tweaking... IP: Logged |
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Scot_Solida Member |
posted 16 January 2004 11:30
So there will be a full printed manual shipped to users? Excellent news, indeed. I just stumbled on this post, and it was fortuitous that I did so, as I had planned to print up the PDF at Kinkos on this very day. You saved me a walk downtown... IP: Logged |
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mmarsh Member |
posted 16 January 2004 12:10
quote: And about a hundred bucks! That was the estimate they gave me... Mike IP: Logged |
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Scot_Solida Member |
posted 17 January 2004 09:33
quote: Great Googly moogly! I am glad I read this. A hundred bucks...that's a sixth of a new DSP card (my value system these days is entirely based around the currency of Capy DSP cards) IP: Logged |
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BillBlack Member |
posted 20 January 2004 13:30
any update on if those manuals ever got shipped? IP: Logged |
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SSC Administrator |
posted 20 January 2004 18:00
According to the printer, they will be finished on January 28 and sent out for binding so they will arrive at Symbolic Sound on 6 February after which we will ship them out as fast as possible. Eager to get them out to you(!) IP: Logged |
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Scot_Solida Member |
posted 24 January 2004 19:16
Excellent news. I am excited to really dig in and get my ehad around this stuff. I spent Friday night buidling my first synth in it. Rudimentary stuff (two analog oscs from some of my vintage synths, plus an additive osc...then subtractive stuff), but good for pads and bass sequences. I really did it to try to get a better understanding of the basics. It's slowly happening...but the manual will make it nuch easier. IP: Logged |
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KX Member |
posted 25 January 2004 02:50
For sure paper is better than a TV (monitor) for reading! I prefer to read Kyma's manual in my bed, reading while listening to the best music ever composed ( or recorded )!. Longer path but I believe it's gonna be the best for me. Karl IP: Logged |
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fader8 Member |
posted 12 February 2004 11:23
Arrived today. Yummy. Some new content since the PDF on the CD too. Thinking of ordering an extra one for the bedside table myself, maybe one for the bath too? Is there a laminated waterproof version available?! Nice job! IP: Logged |
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KX Member |
posted 12 February 2004 18:33
I use to bring the old Kyma 4.5 with me when I go off-road with my motorcycle; I'd like to get a Kyma X revealed book that unfold like a roadmap so I can use it as a readable carpet too. Of course waterproof is a must for me too. IP: Logged |
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mmarsh Member |
posted 14 February 2004 10:57
I received my manual yesterday evening. Wow. It is the most beautiful book I have seen in a long time. Color! For a technical manual, or for any kind of book, the quality and beauty matches very nicely with Kyma and Capybara. Beauty begets Beauty, so I suspect some nice things will be coming out of my speakers soon... Mike IP: Logged |
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KX Member |
posted 14 February 2004 11:32
I received mine yesterday. VERY nice. However I prefer the original perfume of the old book! I think it will be a lot easier for beginners to start with this book. Also the "Advanced Topics" chapters are by far superior to the old book. First thing I noticed: no more "prototype" chapter. Considering that each page of the new book contains 2 page of the old, and considering that the removed prototype chapter occupied about 1/4 of the old book, at 400 pages one can imagine how many revelations the X book contains... I only hope that it will be solid as its predecessor; I still want to take it off-road with my dirt-bike as I did before! I might order a spare copy... [This message has been edited by KX (edited 14 February 2004).] IP: Logged |
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mmarsh Member |
posted 23 February 2004 12:43
quote: I've read it through a couple of times now. It's a very very nice manual. It's not really even a manual, though is it? It's more of a text book. A beautiful text book. I do miss the prototypes section, too. In fact, I would encourage SSC to publish an updated prototypes reference under separate (and equally beautiful) cover. Updated to include new protos and exclue the non-existing ones (like Cellular Automata that I wish was still there *sigh*). Currently working on scripting notes via Smalltalk/CapyTalk. Loads of fun! Mike IP: Logged |
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SSC Administrator |
posted 23 February 2004 13:01
" do miss the prototypes section, too. In fact, I would encourage SSC to publish an updated prototypes reference " How about a PDF version that you could access online(?) <glad you're enjoying the book!> IP: Logged |
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mmarsh Member |
posted 23 February 2004 13:40
quote: That would be very cool. When I get churly about the screen, I can take it to Kinko's for hard copy. Mike IP: Logged |
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armand Member |
posted 24 February 2004 10:58
Yippie, the book arrived today! this is going to be brilliant! I just started on a course of electronic composition at CEM (Centre of Electronic Music) in Amsterdam with access on the ARP 2500 / 2600, EMS VCS3 / Synthi A / Synthi AKS and a Serge Modular. I'm just going to work on one music piece and my Kyma System is the main instrument on this project, the course is 6 months, maybe it's interesting that I write some kind of journal of this project on Twiki, although English is not my first language. So for now... first learning the Kyma X language! IP: Logged |
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SSC Administrator |
posted 24 February 2004 12:00
"my Kyma System is the main instrument on this project, the course is 6 months, maybe it's interesting that I write some kind of journal of this project on Twiki" That could be really interesting... People could offer suggestions or workarounds if you run into any Kyma puzzles. Perhaps you could even include MP3s of intermediate versions? It could be fascinating to observe a work in progress... IP: Logged |
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armand Member |
posted 24 February 2004 14:39
This would be ideal for suggestions or workarounds and MP3's or even some Timelines. Tomorrow evening I've got a rendez vous to analyse and discuss my ideas, it is a small class of 3 people, Thursday I've got 4 hours of studio time but it is more to get familair in the CEM studio because its been a while that I have worked on these instruments but on the next session I'll bring Kyma in, and of course I've got enough time to work on this piece at my own studio, it's a kind luxury that I just work for 2 days (just a simple job that have nothing to do with music) in a week so enough time to learn and use Kyma for this music piece in progress. Later on Tweaky. IP: Logged |
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dgkiers Member |
posted 24 February 2004 17:26
Hi Armand, I live around the corner from the CEM, brouwersgracht, never been there though, would love to hear what you are doing and check out the studio, maybe not in your 4 hours, let me know. Greetings, David david@mob-lab.org IP: Logged |
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armand Member |
posted 24 February 2004 18:16
Hi David, You are a Kyma user so as far as I'm concerned it's oké, but I have to ask the people from CEM about this for a studio visit. Do you know they never heard about Kyma... but this is going to change soon!!! I'll let you know by email. Regards, -Armand IP: Logged |
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SSC Administrator |
posted 27 February 2004 18:54
Kyma X Prototypes Reference is now available from the tweaky: http://www.symbolicsound.com/tweaky It's large so it will be up there for one week only (pls download it at your earliest convenience, thanks!) IP: Logged |
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mmarsh Member |
posted 27 February 2004 20:41
quote: Thanks! This is cool. One thought: the zip file is HUGE but it does include everything. The prototypes PDF is only 780K. If you wanted to leave that up on Tweaky longer, just leave the PDF...no? Again, thanks for this. On first perusal I rediscovered AnalysisFilter and am excited to do a little Frequency Shifting! Mike IP: Logged |
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