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Administrator 		posted 05 January 2006 19:12         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

fifiefauxfire.kym
 
Thought it might be fun to see whether we could synthesize the sound of fire. Here is a first attempt using grain clouds and noise. Maybe we could brainstorm on this and improve upon it (and save ourselves some scorched microphones).

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tuscland
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Hello,

I realized that the way one think of the sound of fire, and to a larger extent every sounds, differs from one person to another. Before listening to you sound, I thought more of the "windy" sound of fire, instead of the crackling sound which reminds me a fire made of wood rather than gaz or oil.

In the given example, the crackling sound is rather good. I find it especially good when the frequency is down so that we can hear some kind of explosions. Some might say it sounds too synthetic, but I think this is what is funny.

When searching on Google about the sound of fire, I found a document that could help : http://eg04.inrialpes.fr/Programme/Papers/PDF/paper1260.pdf

I'll try to experiment things on the "windy" part of the sound of fire which, IMHO, can be improved in the current version.


Camille

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It's quite interesting that you imagined or remembered a different sound of fire (goes along with this earlier discussion: http://www.symbolicsound.com/cgi-bin/bin/view/Share/ImagineObserveRememberDiscussion).

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tuscland
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After reading this article, I think I find definitely more interesting to modelize after remembrance than scientific statements. Though synthesis could be considered as a science, I am not convinced that we are in the fields of alchemy ...

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jesges
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Rain-or-Fire.kym
 
Hi
It's curious how two opposite elements in the Nature are so close in synthesis...

Jesus

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Administrator 		posted 12 January 2006 08:23         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder if it is because the snapping of a fire is caused by water turning to steam and exploding the wood? (http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae642.cfm). So they are really not so opposite after all?

I suspect that the uniform random trigger pattern also has something to do with the similarity.

Maybe the sound of a droplet exploding when it hits the roof of a car is similar to the sound of a drop of water exploding because it is superheated?

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jesges
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the link... amazing!

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robertjarvis
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HotorWet.kym
 
I am reminded of when I first got Kyma, and my favourite past time for a year or so was trying to create running water using the Granular Classic Sound....

Here are my contributions: a selection of wet or hot moments. I've included a few more crackles and also varied the noise element.

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