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taylor12k
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posted 31 May 2004 08:58         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi,

i'm using a memory writer and want the same control in the VCS to not only trigger the memory writer but also act as a gate for the writer's duration... so, for however long i hold down the trigger button in the VCS, that time is translated into the record duration...

if my trigger parameter is, eg: !TriggerMemoryWriter then what do i put into the Duration field to achieve my desired effect?

thanks

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pete
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posted 31 May 2004 12:48         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi taylor
You need to note that the memory writers duration field is not a hot field and therefore cannot be adjusted while the sound is playing. You may not need to set this duration live. If you let it carry on recording for the full duration but only ever play back the but that equates to the time you had your finger on the gate, this may do what you want. If however you must only record the bit when the gate is down because you want to add more later without overwriting what is already there, you could use the step writer with an up down counter as it's index from pete's DSP modules.

Pete

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KX
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posted 31 May 2004 13:11         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.symbolicsound.com/cgi-bin/bin/view/How/KeyDownGateMemoryWriter

may be that could help

Karl

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SSC
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posted 31 May 2004 13:15         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You cannot change the capture duration on the fly; however you *can* change the duration of the captured waveform you play back. For example, you can change the LoopEnd of a Sample that is reading your captured waveform. For example, you could set up the MemoryWriter to capture 1 s of sound, but the corresponding Sample that plays the captured sound can be scaled to play back any fraction of 1 s.

Take a look at the example called four-track looper in the Kyma Sound Library/Sampling/LiveSamplingAndLooping.kym file.

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taylor12k
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posted 31 May 2004 14:03         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm.. ok.. all very informative. thanks.

now, one more question, about the memory writer itself: if your capture duration is, say 3 seconds, and is cyclic.. that means it's constantly writing over itself, correct? is it only writing over itself when TRIGGER is "true" ?..

what happens if trigger is random.. and your trigger times are happening faster than your record duration, yet the CYCLIC button is checked?


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posted 31 May 2004 14:22         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It goes back to the beginning when you trigger it. So if the triggers are coming faster than the captureDuration, it would never get around to cycling.

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pete
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posted 31 May 2004 17:20         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But step writer and the indexing modules will let you cycle any way you want.

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taylor12k
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posted 31 May 2004 18:00         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and these are part of your modules, pete?

is that the PetesDSPMods29403.kym file?

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Originally posted by pete:
But step writer and the indexing modules will let you cycle any way you want.


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pete
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posted 31 May 2004 18:33         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes but I don't know what the 29403 bit is.

It's the ones on the tweaky under share - microsounds.

you need both
PetesDSPModules9-12-03.kym
and
UserCode.zip

[This message has been edited by pete (edited 31 May 2004).]

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taylor12k
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posted 31 May 2004 21:27         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah, i had evreything.. found it OK..

do you have any examples of the step writer and up down counter in action?.. sounds like a cool pair..

quote:
Originally posted by pete:
Yes but I don't know what the 29403 bit is.

It's the ones on the tweaky under share - microsounds.

you need both
PetesDSPModules9-12-03.kym
and
UserCode.zip


[This message has been edited by pete (edited 31 May 2004).]




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pete
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posted 01 June 2004 07:32         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

RandomRecord.kym

 
Hi taylor
Attached is an example of the step writer.
The record controls should be buttons not toggles but the graphics stop working if one holds a finger on the control.

Pete

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taylor12k
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posted 01 June 2004 08:11         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks, pete.. that's really cool... trying to get my head around exactly what's happening in terms of the buffer.. and when it gets re-written (or not)..

but this seems to have some huge potential!


quote:
Originally posted by pete:
Hi taylor
Attached is an example of the step writer.
The record controls should be buttons not toggles but the graphics stop working if one holds a finger on the control.

Pete




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