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JanPunter
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posted 10 April 2012 13:47         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Using pacarana with Kyma X 6.82f11, MacBook pro OSX 10.5.8 and t.c.electronic studio konnekt 48 (not sure what firmware version there, the dmg says 251_6973-568_356 and having another one 220_4998_340 I think I installed that first one, but it is uninstalled now of course).

Mac fw800 -> fw800 pacarana fw800 -> fw400 t.c.electronic.

When I leave a sound running for like a day or so I'll get a Firewire bus error reported by Kyma X - this happened to me twice now.

On the first occasion somehow the studiokonnekt's settings were messed up and I had to re-install it's software and reset to factory defaults to fix it.

On the 2nd occasion I just had to power cycle some stuff.

I'd like to have things a bit more reliable ... is there anything I could look into?

Jan.

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franz
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posted 10 April 2012 14:07         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does your sound include a crossfilter sound?

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JanPunter
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posted 10 April 2012 14:16         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not currently, now running is the Phonemes BPM thingie from Kyma Sound Library/Sampling/Rhythmic loops.kym (with slightly modified parameters), not sure what the other one was ... I have the pacarana less than a week now, so not entirely sure what I'm doing ;-)

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cebec
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posted 10 April 2012 19:36         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great to see you here, Jan!

One thing you might want to do, now, is set Stack Traces to Allowed in the Preferences.

Also, see this thread the previous thread in the forum: Beware the flat orange FW cables of Doom!

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SSC
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posted 10 April 2012 21:46         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Jan,

Is your computer ever going to sleep? This could confuse the FireWire bus.
Are there any other FireWire devices on the bus?

Thanks!

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JanPunter
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posted 11 April 2012 13:21         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi cebec, good to see a familiar 'face' here :-)

Stack tracing, saw that somewhere - ok - turned on.

I think both cables used are of good quality - one supplied by Symbolic sound, and the other may be a tad thinner, but similar quality I'd say (it may be a tad long with 3 m / 10 ft ?).

And re. sleep/FW connections - Kyma seems to prevent the Mac's sleep, and there are no other FW devices involved.

The pacarana is connected over Ethernet though, in case such might matter.

Edit: it did not crash today.

[This message has been edited by JanPunter (edited 11 April 2012).]

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BobTheDog
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posted 17 April 2012 15:39         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Jan,

An you gave. Up and got one

I have the exact same setup you mentioned but have never ran it for that length of time.

Do you have anything else attached to the same F800 bus on the mac?

Cheers

Andy

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BobTheDog
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posted 17 April 2012 15:41         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah just retread, you haven't!

Is it still doing it, I could try running for that length of time to see if I get the same issue if you would like?

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SSC
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posted 18 April 2012 11:03         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We've been able to narrow it down to a set of conditions in software that happen about once every 24 hours. Still trying to catch it in the act with debugging code.

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trotz
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posted 21 April 2012 03:23         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Jan and Andy!

Nice to find you here... maybe we could do one of those weekend european KYMA meetings we commented during our "holiday-synth-event" in Mallorca last January? Köln, perhaps?

I had a very strange FW connection problem a few months ago. I even bought a new FW cable.

It has no reasonable explanation but disconnecting a USB external hard drive made all the problems dissapear. It could even be related to an electrical problem. I suspect this because whenever I turn off the lights in my home-studio, the Pacarana still looses connection. I made an electrician check the installation but he found nothing.

In case you find no logical explanation, check out also for possible power issues. Well, that's my 2 cents of euro!

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JanPunter
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posted 25 April 2012 16:31         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Pere and Andy :-)

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In case you find no logical explanation, check out also for possible power issues.

Well ... actually stuff like that would be more logical to me ;-)

I did actually think about bad power though, but as usually my ethernet switch will stop working on a slight powerdip and that one was still alive ...

I've moved on since to some other sounds to work on and those seem to be less crashy sofar. Bending my brains on OSC now ... got some stuff working there so I can make sounds that react to the electro-music IRC chat :-) On that ... and on how the hell that analog sequencer thing works :s

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JanPunter
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posted 04 September 2012 19:58         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wanted to let your folks know this issue has been resolved.

The system has been up now for like two or three weeks continuously and I did some patching on it again (had been running boring debugging stuff for weeks .. from crash to crash ... almost was at the point to try flying lessons for the pacarana) .. anyway, all failures will be my own fuckups again :-)

Thank you Carla and Kurt!

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