posted 23 May 2003 10:00            

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there is this function in sonic worx which is called remove envelope. it does something like normalizing EVERY sample.
not maintaining the amplitude relations of a certain amount of samples, as is usually understood as normalizing.
is there any idea how this would be done in kyma???

thx.m

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posted 23 May 2003 10:09            

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I seem to remember that Scott Holden had figured out a way to do this. Maybe he could describe how to construct the Sound?

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posted 26 May 2003 02:55            

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is there a way to contact mr. scott holden via email directly?
tx, m

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posted 26 May 2003 11:15            

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i´m not sure if i understand that. wouldn´t setting every sample to full scale mean something like dc current?

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posted 26 May 2003 18:09            

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Maybe it´s more like extreme loudness maximizing. something a waves L1 or L2 would do with extreme setting.
frank.

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posted 28 May 2003 02:51            

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yeah, its like maximizing, but i guess its not like compressing and making up gain.
i put 2 sounds, before/after processing, on this place: http://sm.xdv.org/kyma_sounds/
called scraper, and scraperRemove.
sonicWorx calles the algorithm "remove natural envelope"
i guess one could achieve it by inversing the data from an envelope folower as an input to gain. but maybe this is too easy...
m

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posted 28 May 2003 03:14            

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Originally posted by sm:
i guess one could achieve it by inversing the data from an envelope folower as an input to gain.

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well, as fas as i know... this *is* a compressor.
in fact it sounds like a completely overdriven L1 limiter. i would say try your idea and use no or almost no attack and release time (sample by sample, ideally). i´m pretty sure you get a similar result.

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