posted 01 February 2001 12:00            

Although, it is uncommon to find this I was playing a sound with a horizontal fader in the VCS. It did not appear on the Motor Mix. There were other vertical faders and knobs in the VCS which worked fine. I figure I could change the horizontal fader to vertical but did not try this at the time. Is this the only option?

I also thought that I could use the motor mix to send continious controller messages to other hardware. I setup a sound that just sends out midi cc messages when a fader is moved. Without the motor mix this works fine but does not work with the motor mix. All my midi equipment is connected to a multi-port midi interface. I have used the midi interface patchbay software to route the Capybara and the motor mix together and the Capybara to the hardware I am wanting to control. Evidently, the Capybara can't send messages to both the motor mix and another device in a live fashion. Am I missing something?

I too vote for an implimentation of transport controls on the Motor Mix. Those used buttons are begging to be used.

posted 01 February 2001 16:26            

You should be able to send out the MotorMix controllers by placing a hot Event Value into a MIDIOutputController and setting the MIDI controller number and MIDI channel. There should be no difference in the MIDI out of the Capybara when using the MotorMix, except for the messages it sends to move the MotorMix faders, etc. Could it be some filtering in your MIDI interface that is preventing the data from getting to the device you want to control?

posted 03 February 2001 12:16            

Could you email us the Sound you are using so we can take a look at it?

posted 08 February 2001 10:15            

Using HyperDraw in Logic to control Kyma is really great!

posted 09 February 2001 23:59            

Wow! You can USE hyperdraw in Logic?!?!? I have been using Logic (mostly for the environment) for over 7 years and I find hyperdraw to be so absurdly designed that I was REALLY happy to get the Kyma timeline so that I could do controlers/time.

Associated question: Are you using the MotorMix environment for Logic or just sending various controllers into Logic via MotorMix? How are you (if at all) swapping using the MotorMix with kyma vs Logic? Are you just running through Logic into Kyma?
I am really finding that I need many, many more controllers than my MotorMix provides.... scrolling from page to page (given the somewhat limited programmability of the VCS) is pretty difficult. I love having the MotorMix, but would really like to connect at least two of them together.... 4 would be even nicer....
I ask the Logic questions because I could imagine building a Logic Environment which helped with this switching. (I am trying to figure out a way to use the Motormix to control more than 72 faders, 300+ buttons and 144 knobs! all of this is on a very small patch I have that is just a set of 4 sequencers controling audio. Only uses 4 chips of DSP, but is a real pain to control in realtime).

posted 12 February 2001 14:17            

I like the HyperDraw as it allows me to sync control of kyma sounds to the sequences runnning in Logic - I can line up these changes on a note by note basis.

posted 12 February 2001 18:06            

Hmmm. I need to know just how you have the MM and kyma connected to Logic. Are the outputs of the MM and Logic both running into some multi-input MIDI converter? If so, which one?
Then, I assume, you are attempting to see the MIDI from both Kyma and the MM in the Logic Environment so that it can be routed to the sequencer. Is this so? If yes, then go to the Physical Input module in the Logic Environment and let me know if you are merging all of the incoming signals there or if you have them coming out of individual outputs from that module. Attach a Monitor module to the output that SHOULD be giving you the MM's outs..... moving faders on the MM gives you nothing in this Monitor Module?
Without having good realtime back/forth communications, this could be difficult. If you would like to reach me off the forum you may do so at vanceg@earthlink.net If/when we find answers that would be interesting to the entire list we can post them back here.

Vance

posted 26 February 2001 14:09            

Here's what I did:

1) Create MIDI Instruments for Kyma and the MotorMix in the Environment.

2) In 'MIDI Options' make sure SysEx filtering is switched off and check
the 'Sysex with MIDI Thru function' to on.

3) When sending data to kyma from the MotorMix make sure a Kyma track is selected
in the arrange window.

4) When sending data to the MotorMix from Kyma make sure a MotorMix track is selected
in the arrange window.

Parts 3 & 4 is the annoying imperfect bit about this - Even though I have cabled the Instruments together in the environment I still have to switch tracks

Also - The MotorMix isn't updated from Kyma as quickly thru the AMT8 as when it is direct, and when using a sequencer sound, the buttons don't always light up, or take ages to update.

Maybe someone has got around this problem?

posted 26 February 2001 14:12            

Recording MotorMix output into Logic, editing it in HyperDraw and then playing this into Kyma to drive a the VCS and the sound itself worked fine.