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SSC
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posted 01 May 2001 10:47         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Attached to this message, you will find a beta version of the Capybara ASIO driver, along with a Kyma Timeline that uses the ASIO outputs. This beta version is for the Macintosh and can be used for *24-bit audio output* only. Capybara-320 users with fast PCI Macintoshes should be able to get up to 8 channels of output; laptops and earlier Capybara models will get fewer channels.

The ASIO driver should be placed in the same folder with your other ASIO drivers, and you should select this driver in the setup of your application (for example, using System Setup in Cubase).

In Kyma, there is a new ExternalInput object that represents audio from an external source -- in this case, audio from the ASIO driver. The ExternalInput can be used just like any other Sound in Kyma -- you can process or mangle it, or you can just send it to the Capybara outputs (as the example timeline does).

We are releasing this ASIO driver *as is*, with minimal support. We are doing this so that some people can use it right away, without having to wait while we complete the audio input half of the ASIO driver, and while we work on the Windows version.

In answer to the obvious question, we are planning to finish these drivers in the early fall.

Hope you have fun with the beta driver!

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sm
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posted 01 May 2001 15:09         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh yes!
i feel like having won the lotterie!
now i just pray that max/msp also works in 24bit mode.
any chance of having the chance to choose?
(16 - 24 bit) in the near future???

i love you
->m

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sm
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posted 01 May 2001 16:56         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cool
tested with spark + max/msp.
works well except that it eats up cpu cycles in max/msp.

i understood that if you check "no" in the quit on file/exit misc. pref the capy doesn´t stop the sound. is this also true for the 8 ch in timeline?
or do i have to run kyma in order to use the capy outputs via asio?
->michael

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opiumeater
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posted 01 May 2001 18:31           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When will it be out for PC??

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kenneth
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posted 02 May 2001 15:54         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YAY,
Looking forward to testing this on PC.
Will my Capy 66 function with this driver or is it only for 320 owners?
thanks,
Kenneth

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opiumeater
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posted 02 May 2001 17:44           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, waht about the 320LS?

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SSC
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posted 02 May 2001 18:30         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This should work with all flavors of Capybara: 33, 66, LS, 320.

Expect Windows and ASIO input in early fall.

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David McClain
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posted 02 May 2001 19:54         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are the differences between the various Capy models? Apparently the 320 is the current version. What processors were used on the earlier ones, and how much memory and speed?

- DM

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opiumeater
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posted 03 May 2001 06:41           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 320LS I have has the same dsps and memory as the newer 320, and its a bit faster.. But, it has less I/O's (I plan to get the upgrade) and less expansion slots (6 free)

I bought it on ebay thinking it was the 320 cause thats what the guy told me. But I got ripped off. I payed 2275$ for it. It only cost 1999$ when it was new. Alltho, they dont make it anymore. I still got a good deal I guess. I like it. It runs faster than the newer basic system. But I kinda wanted the I/Os and more expansion slots. (It only has left and right inputs and outputs and thats it..)

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Bill Meadows
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posted 15 May 2001 11:35         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sm:
cool
tested with spark + max/msp.
works well except that it eats up cpu cycles in max/msp.

i understood that if you check "no" in the quit on file/exit misc. pref the capy doesn´t stop the sound. is this also true for the 8 ch in timeline?
or do i have to run kyma in order to use the capy outputs via asio?
->michael


I tried the ASIO driver with Digital Performer, but only got noise (really loud digital hash). I tried running the 8-channel Timeline and I also made my own two-channel Sound.

Digital Performer doesn't use VST. Is that the problem?

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SSC
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posted 16 May 2001 09:15         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you know if Performer was using 24-bit I/O? Right now, the ASIO driver only accepts 24 bit audio data streams.

[This message has been edited by SSC (edited 16 May 2001).]

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SSC
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posted 16 May 2001 09:58         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The versions of the Capybara are:

• Capybara (original): up to 8 20 MHz 56001 DSPs, 768K sample RAM per DSP, stereo analog 16-bit balanced I/O (11.025, 12, 22.05, 24, 44.1, 48 KHz sample rates), MIDI in/out/thru

• Capybara-33: up to 8 33 MHz 56001 DSPs, 768K or 3M sample RAM per DSP, stereo analog 16-bit balanced I/O (11.025, 12, 22.05, 24, 44.1, 48 KHz sample rates), MIDI in/out/thru

• Capybara-66: up to 8 66 MHz 56002 DSPs, 768K 3M, or 12M sample RAM per DSP, stereo analog 16-bit balanced I/O (11.025, 12, 22.05, 24, 44.1, 48 KHz sample rates), optional digital 24-bit I/O (32, 44.1, 48 KHz sample rates), MIDI in/out/thru

• Capybara-LS (also known as Capybara-320A): up to 16 80 MHz 56309 DSPs (8 Capybara-320 expansion cards), 24M sample RAM per DSP, stereo analog 16-bit balanced I/O (44.1, 48 KHz sample rates), optional digital 24-bit I/O (32, 44.1, 48 KHz sample rates), MIDI in/out/thru

• Capybara-320: up to 24 80 MHz 56309 DSPs (12 Capybara-320 expansion cards, plus 4 DSPs on motherboard), 24M sample RAM per DSP, four or eight channel analog 24-bit balanced I/O (about 20 different sample rates ranging from 32 to 100 KHz), four or eight channel digital 24-bit I/O, MIDI in/out/thru, word clock and house sync in, LTC and VITC time code inputs and outputs

Approximate performance comparisons (relative to the original Capybara) of fully loaded systems:

1 Capybara (original)
2 Capybara-33
5 Capybara-66
25 Capybara-LS
44 Capybara-320

All Capybara versions except the original Capybara can run Kyma.5.

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dbag
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posted 31 May 2001 16:05         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi!
i finally got ahold of the driver, and under OS 9.1 cannot get any sound out through Peak, SonicWORX, or Digital Performer.

i guess from what Kurt is saying, we can only playback 24 bit soundfiles. but since my 320-A isn't capturing successfully at 24 bit, i have no way of testing...

Kurt, can you add 16 bit support to this soon?

Really looking forward to using this!

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dbag
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posted 31 May 2001 16:06         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh, actually, the problem with sonicWORX was that it crashes the application immediately after selecting the capybara driver in preferences. i never got to the point of testing sound files..

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posted 01 June 2001 09:48         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is not that it can only play back 24-bit files, but that the application that uses the ASIO drivers must format the data in 24 bits (that is, add 8 bits to each sample of a 16-bit recording). The newer versions of Cubase do this, but we do not know much about other applications.

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av
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posted 01 June 2001 18:38         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have successfully used the ASIO driver with Logic Platinum 4.7 and SonicWorx Artist 2.0.

Logic has occasional clicks and pops on playback. Also the left channel appears to be slightly louder than the right.

When SonicWorx stops playback , a small portion of the sample at the stop point will continously loop.

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posted 16 May 2002 09:26         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a short response to bring the post with the ASIO drivers up where people can find it again.

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photonal
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posted 16 May 2002 11:13         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How is the audio input side doing? and will 16bit also be supported?

Andrew

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babakool
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posted 16 May 2002 14:10         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Digital Performer is 24 bit as are later versions of Peak. I use both programs with my Korg OASYS PCI cards ASIO driver and it works perfectly. I have never tried the Kyma driver as half a beta is not very useful to me and I just communicate with the Capy thru the OASYS SP/DIF and use its ASIO to route Kyma audio to other app's. Multi-channel, more than stereo, would be nice but only one ASIO driver can be used at once with any app. I wish there was some other way to expand the Capy besides more analog (I've gratefully ditched my external mixer) or more!? AES/EBU pairs (is the Capy the only device with more than one of these? what do you do with them?). With all the OS updates and whatnot an ADAT optical option is somthing I'm not holding my breath on (even though I do look good in blue)

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posted 16 May 2002 14:41         Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As it turns out, Project X (updating Kyma to work under OS X and Windows XP), does have implications for the ASIO drivers as well. There are some features of the new OS's that will make it possible to do a better implementation of the ASIO drivers for both Mac and PC. So there will be some perqs beyond just being able to run Kyma in aqua...

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