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cristian_vogel Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() Hello Kyma Forum members , I'm new here ... My Capy is currently waiting for customs officers to let it through control, over at the airport in Barcelona - its frustrating , as I have the weekend free sitting here, knowing that the new arrival to my music world is sitting in the same city as me, but I can't do anything until Monday! Thought I'd take the opportunity to say hello, and catch up on all the posts here
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yenorom Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() Hi Cristian good to see you here IP: Logged |
cristian_vogel Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() Ha! Small World! IP: Logged |
cristian_vogel Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() So, i'm interested in making extreme music with Kyma , and then i can explore more ambiental angles to chill out after i'm thinking, Lightning Bolt, The Locust - this hyper accelerated hyper dense hyper loud modern music, that reflects the same qualities of the hyper world we live in .. any pointers for where to begin with Kyma in this direction? Not industrial noise, instead a way of attaining a sense of the sublime through extreme performance and sound. IP: Logged |
JackRosete Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() Hi Cristian, I would start by getting to know the basics, and the best way to do that is probably by working your way through the manual whilst sitting in front of your computer so that you can follow the examples. Mucking about with the factory Sounds can be very useful too, but I would recommend the manual to begin with as you'll get a lot more out of experimenting once you've grasped the basics... Also, familiarize yourself with the Prototypes (the Prototypes reference is available in PDF form within the Kyma folder) as quickly as possible. The real power of Kyma starts once you begin using Capytalk and Smalltalk to customize the Prototypes and factory Sounds to create your own working library... Also, some sort of MIDI controller is pretty essential and I would strongly recommend getting hold of a Wacom tablet ASAP if you don't already have one! On the VCS (Virtual Control Surface) if you right-click on a virtual fader there's a learn option that lets you easily assign a hardware MIDI fader to it. Finally, this isn't a program you're going to master overnight. I've had my system for over 6 months now and I'm still barely scratching the surface. It took me a good three months to get the hang of the basics, it really is an extremely complex program. But once you break through the first layer you'll find great rewards waiting (and many more layers to break through!). If you have any other questions feel free to email me at: jackmorganrosete@mac.com Good luck! Jack [This message has been edited by JackRosete (edited 20 March 2006).] IP: Logged |
cristian_vogel Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() thanks Jack, On the controller front, I have a both Modulars, the G2 and the 'G1' , and the Wacom tablet looks useful too... I will probably pick one up asap... I was very interested in the Lemur controller, but I have been writing to the company that makes it, asking for more info about the Lemur and Kyma, but no word yet - so maybe a Wacom in the meantime... Anyways, the Capy and Kyma software is still stuck at customs, they are 'inspecting' it - ha! - trying to work their way through the manual , to find out what on Earth it is!!! I have experience with programming and audio languages, from the early days of Basic, Lisp, Csound and Cecilia to Supercollider, Metasynth and the Nord Modular, so I intend to begin with Kyma straight in at the deep end. I do have a project to focus on and apply the system to straight away, in fact they are waiting for the music right now!! thanks for the tips on harnessing the true power of the system - its the mixture of CLI Object Orientated Language and Graphical Interface that convinced me to go for a Kyma rig.. both for performance and composition. I just hope that my poor grasp of mathematics and physics don't restrict my creativity. IP: Logged |
RXB Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() "I just hope that my poor grasp of mathematics and physics don't restrict my creativity. " *Chuckles* I wouldn't worry about that. If a lack of knowledge of higher mathematics and physics were a disqualifier for creating electronic music, then I wouldn't have even one CD released, let alone three, and, forgive my arrogance, I'll set the sophistication of what I do against anyone's work, including the academics'. Any *worthwhile* electronic music tool is not going to restrict itself to the Ph.D. set, and Kyma certainly fits that category. Musical and compositional ability will take you a long way, indeed. After all, that's what it's about, or should be: Music, not mathematics. IP: Logged |
JackRosete Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() Sounds like you should have no problems getting to grips with Kyma then, especially if you've used Supercollider. My own programming background was within Reaktor and Max/MSP and that helped me tremendously. I haven't had the opportunity to try out a Lemur yet but I've heard that they're pretty cool. I wonder how they interface with Kyma? They use an OSC protocol right? Does anyone know whether Kyma supports OSC? I would definately go for a Wacom tablet though, check out the Intuos range that responds to pen pressure and tilt. Literally blows away any other controller that I've come across in terms of expression. And the interface with Kyma is sweeet. Always a good way to come up with amazing sounds! [This message has been edited by JackRosete (edited 21 March 2006).] IP: Logged |
cristian_vogel Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() yes , i'd also like to know if Kyma is going in the OSC direction, as it makes a lot of sense to drag controller away from the MIDI protocol. IP: Logged |
Phi Curtis Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() quote: As far as I know, Kyma doesn't currently communicate via OSC. If you have Max/MSP (or PD or even SuperCollider, I suppose) it's not too hard to rig up a patch that receives OSC and converts it to messages to send to Kyma. I'm using the flame~ max object (which can be found on the Tweaky) to send messages via Kyma's Flame firewire box, but you could just as easily send via out of Max, through an external midi interface, and into Kyma. I've done this to play around with a Essential Reality P5 virtual reality glove (they don't make them anymore, buy you can pick them up for about $40-$50 on ebay). I set up the patch to receive messages via flame~ (Kyma sees it as messages anywhere from !cc00-!127) and then map them via SoundToGlobal controllers to hot values that I name !GloveX, !GloveY, !GloveZ, Thumb, !Ring, !Middle, !Index, !Pinky - you get 3 dimensional controllers, plus controllers for each finger, plus 3 buttons. Links to programs to convert P5 data to OSC can be found here (also to midi, for PCs): http://www.audiomulch.com/simulus/p5glove/ Not quite as intuitive to control as the Wacom tablet, but still fun. Phil IP: Logged |
Sylvain KEPLER Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() Hi Cristian, welcome onboard. I guess your will to master the kyma system. Being not exclusively a composer as for my daily activities, I learned kyma over a very long period of time. In a first stage, yes , it has a lot to do with getting used about the philosophy and "good" habits around kyma... To my opinion, wha's intersting is that Kyma will be your rewarding friend for a very long long time...It's not only about learning prototypes by reading the files (pdf etc) that go with it : but also about having some prerequisite knowledge that has a lot in common with signal processing techniques and some other technical backgrounds. We heard sometimes David and some other members here in the forum talking about Hilbert Transform etc...I would have never learned about Hilbert transform just turnin around my synthesizers...it could have lasted so for very long...until eventually last year during my signal processing courses (for communications...).
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